William Butler 1865

[bobtonks]

In 1891 William Butler married Lydia Georgina Smith (Newmarket). In 1911 they were living in Impington with their daughter Violet (1895) and Adpt dau Gwendolene Wads(?) 1906.
Can anyone confirm Williams parents are Samuel and Sarah Ann Butler (née Flack)?
Is Sarah Ann related to Elizabeth Caroline Norman (née Flack) living next door?
Who are Lydia Georgina Smith's parents?

[Christine53]

From Cambridgeshire marriages :

William Butler , father Uriah Butler , and Lydia Georgina Smith , father William '
married by Banns Swaffham Prior , St Mary 7 Nov 1891.


I think Gwendoline is Gwendoline M P Loades ( no mmn ) 2Q 1906 Swaffham 4b 834

[Christine53]

1891 census:

 RG12; Piece: 1294; Folio: 107; Page: 8

William Butler b 1865 Borough Green
Uriah Butler b 1837 Swaffham Bulbeck
Emily Butler b 1841 Bottisham

Uriah Butler married Emily Pollendine 29 Jan 1859 Bottisham

[bobtonks]

Looks good, thank you.

[bobtonks]

Just need to locate Lydia's family .....

[CaroleW]

Just need to locate Lydia's family .....

You have her birthplace on both the 1901 & 1911 censuses and her birth is on freebmd. Use GRO online to get her mmn.  Once you have it - use freebmd to find her parents marriage then look her up on censuses

The 1881 entry has an amendment by another researcher showing her full name

[Jamjar]

Dec 1865 Cosford 4a 899
SMITH William
TUFFIN Sarah

I can’t see Sarah’s marriage to James TUFFEN. 

Death:

TUFFEN, JAMES  45 
GRO Reference: 1860  M Quarter in COSFORD  Volume 04A  Page 306

1851, the Tuffen’s: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGRG-FVX

1861, Sarah Tuffen, widowed: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7ZS-NV7

1871, Lydia: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFNQ-YJ1

1881: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27D-KWYC

1901: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XS3B-FKY

1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7KD-NRH

WASS, WILLIAM       - 
GRO Reference: 1841  M Quarter in COSFORD  Volume 12  Page 342

TUFFEN, HANNAH  SUSANNA mmn WASS 
GRO Reference: 1845  J Quarter in COSFORD  Volume 12  Page 339
Married 1:
Sep 1867 Sudbury 4a 673
RUFFELL David
TUFFEN Hannah
Married 2, sister’s husband:
1904 Preston 8e 1236
SINGLETON John William
RUFFELL Hannah Susannah   
1871: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFNQ-HLK
1881: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27D-VCVX
1891: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:4NFF-TPZ
1901: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSV3-GMT
1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X49W-R2Z

TUFFEN, JOHN  THOMAS mmn WASS 
GRO Reference: 1846  D Quarter in COSFORD  Volume 12  Page 322

TUFFEN, SARAH mmn WASS 
GRO Reference: 1847  D Quarter in COSFORD  Volume 12  Page 6

TUFFEN, ANNE mmn WASS 
GRO Reference: 1849  J Quarter in COSFORD  Volume 12  Page 370

TUFFEN, THOMAS mmn WASS 
GRO Reference: 1851  M Quarter in COSFORD  Volume 12  Page 382

TUFFEN, GEORGE mmn WASS 
GRO Reference: 1853  S Quarter in COSFORD  Volume 04A  Page 362

TUFFEN, JOSEPH mmn WASS 
GRO Reference: 1855  J Quarter in COSFORD  Volume 04A  Page 409

TUFFEN, MARY  ANN ELIZABETH mmn WASS 
GRO Reference: 1857  M Quarter in COSFORD  Volume 04A  Page 441

TUFFEN, OSBOND mmn WASS 
GRO Reference: 1858  D Quarter in COSFORD  Volume 04A  Page 389
Married:
Jun 1889 Carlisle 10b   772
TUFFEN Osbond   
COLLINS Mary
Death:
TUFFIN, OSBOND  81 
GRO Reference: 1940  S Quarter in CAMBRIDGESHIRE  Volume 03B  Page 1038
Probate: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:W79Q-11W2
1891: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:4N15-53Z
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:4N1R-M3Z
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:4N1R-QPZ
1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7KD-4SV
Children:
TUFFEN, GERTRUDE  MARGARET mmn COLLINS 
GRO Reference: 1890  S Quarter in WIGTON  Volume 10B  Page 543
1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7KB-PRX
Married: Mar 1920
TUFFEN, GWENDOLINE  ENID mmn EAST 
GRO Reference: 1908  S Quarter in CHESTERTON  Volume 03B  Page 417
TUFFEN, AGNES  AUGUSTA mmn EAST - died Dec 1914
GRO Reference: 1912  D Quarter in CHESTERTON  Volume 02C  Page 726
TUFFEN, ADELINE  CONSTANCE MAY    EAST 
GRO Reference: 1915  M Quarter in CHESTERTON  Volume 03B  Page 718
Married: Jun 1942
TUFFEN, WINIFRED  ADA GRACE mmn EAST 
GRO Reference: 1915  M Quarter in CHESTERTON  Volume 03B  Page 719
Married: Dec 1945

TUFFEN, ELIZABETH  MARTHA mmn WASS 
GRO Reference: 1860  M Quarter in COSFORD  Volume 04A  Page 459
Married:
Sep 1879 Colchester 4a 449
SINGLETON John William
TUFFEN Elizabeth Martha
Death:
SINGLETON, ELIZABETH  MARTHA  43 
GRO Reference: 1903  D Quarter in PRESTON  Volume 08E  Page 434
1881: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q275-T2H9
1901: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9KS-6FC
1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X49W-R2Z

SMITH, JOANNA mmn WASS 
GRO Reference: 1866  M Quarter in COSFORD  Volume 04A  Page 482
Possible marriage:
Sep 1883 Cosford 4a 860
RICE Walter
SMITH Joanna
Births on GRO UK- RICE/SMITH Cosford
I think this is them on the censuses:
1891: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:4X1W-DW2
1901: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSV7-S9J
1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7GJ-3P7

SMITH, LYDIA  GEORGINA mmn WASS 
GRO Reference: 1871  M Quarter in COSFORD  Volume 04A  Page 500

Jamjar

[Jamjar]

1841, possibly James: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M73Q-WBM

Sarah WASS christening: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J3VS-87W

1841, her folks: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M738-C7M

1851, her folks: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGRV-6F6

1861, her folks with a George Smith boarder: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7CP-VN6

1881, her folks: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27D-V7KZ

Jamjar

[bobtonks]

Gosh.... thanks for all that.
I found a Sarah Wass marr James Tuflin Dec 1843 FreeBMD. In FindMyPast it was James Tuflin (Luflin)
marriage date 27 October 1843 Edwardstone

Lydia Georgina Smith b Qtr 1 1871 Cosford - mother Wass.

Thanks again for all the info.