George Miller

[jonw65]

Hi
Well there is an Esther Miller marriage in Heworth in 1822 to Thomas Carr
BT
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DHW9-6F9

She has apparently signed, but we would need the parish register to compare the signatures.
A possible double baptism, 5 Oct 1823, Gateshead, Thomas Mark Carr and John Cornel Carr. Father a Cordwainer.
I'm not sure if this Esther is around in and after 1841, or if she is the Esther Carr died 1839 age 50.

There is a Thomas Carr, 16, Quarryman, in the household of Jane Miller, 100, in Gateshead in 1841.
I think I am in danger of getting carried away here!

Anyway, that is one Esther you could investigate perhaps.
I agree that it looks like George Miller is a not born county in 1841.
John

[tdgower2]

Thank You John. Will look for that Esther Carr/Miller  .

Tom

[jonw65]

There is a Thomas Carr, 16, Quarryman, in the household of Jane Miller, 100, in Gateshead in 1841.
I think I am in danger of getting carried away here!

I was.
That is not Thomas Mark Carr, who was buried 12 Nov 1824, Gateshead, age 13 months
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6884-JB9

Esther Miller bap Newcastle 1802 did have a brother George, who was baptized 6 April 1800, Newcastle All Saints. Which is unfortunately too late for your George.

Hard going so far!
John

[jonw65]

That Esther Miller marriage in 1822 was witnessed by Timothy Wilson.

And George and Sarah Miller had a son who they named Timothy Wilson. Baptized at Gateshead earlier the same year, on 12 May.
Father a Quarryman
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-62T7-DNL

That can't be coincidence?

[tdgower2]

Ah. So that's where Timothy comes from.
The 1802 Esther maybe related to George in some way then?   

[jonw65]

Hi
She may be. Names running in families, etc.
At least we seem to have linked George to an Esther Miller/Carr, which is something.
John

[tdgower2]

Thanks so much, you've helped me loads. 
Will have a look at Esthers tomorrow.

[jonw65]

Hi
Something else to consider!
Have you seen the children of John Millar and Jane, nee Wilson?
There is a baptism of four of them on 23 January 1804 at Gateshead.
Henry, born 9 April 1790, 4th son
Timothy, born 6 January 1792, 5th son
William, born 9 February 1796, 6th son
Wilson, born 3 February 1798, 7th son
BT here (over two images)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-XCQ9-569

It says that father John is a Shoemaker, deceased. And in fact he was buried on that very same day at Gateshead, age 50. Died 21 January.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-XCQ9-5SY

So John and Jane had three sons born before 1790. Can we find any?
Going back, a double baptism at Gateshead, 18 Feb 1787
John & George, sons of John Millar
BT
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-XCQ9-G84

No mothers names given in Gateshead then. Not on the BTs at least. And of course we can't be sure that is the same John Millar, since the info is so minimal
It doesn't say the are boys twins. They may have been of course, but one of them could have been older.

No Gateshead BT for 1787-8, but from the parish registers FamilySearch have indexed an Esther Millar baptized at Gateshead, 18 May 1788, father John
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J3S3-W8D

She would be a good match on age for the Esther Carr buried June 1839, age 51 (age 50 in the new GRO death index), if indeed that was the Esther Miller who married in 1822. Don't know for sure.

An Esther Wilson, daughter of Timothy, was baptized in Gateshead later in 1788 (is on the 1788-79 BT). Timothy likely had a son Timothy baptized there in 1786

Haven't found a marriage for John Millar and Jane Wilson.
Not everything is perfect here, but the right names are potentially there. Could Timothy Wilson senior have been a brother of Jane Millar? Either he or his son could have been Esther's marriage witness.
John

[tdgower2]

Wow John, well done on that. Lots of information to look into. 

Tom