Edward Green Fletcher

[g eli]

 Edward Green Fletcher died in Heanor 1790 and was buried in Horsley 5 Feb 1790.
Edward Green Fletcher married Elizabeth Fletcher in Heanor 8 Aug 1775 his occupation may have been sojourner.
Mary Fletcher baptized 5th Feb 1778, Shirland parents Edward Green Fletcher & Elizabeth Fletcher
Mary Fletcher baptized 5th Mar 1778, Shirland parents Edward Green Fletcher & Elizabeth his wife
Edward Green Fletcher baptized 10 Aug 1779, Heanor parents Edward Fletcher and his wife Elisabeth
Edward Green Fletcher Buried Heanor 22 Mar 1805
I think the first death is of Edward senior and the second of Edward junior
Are the two Marys the same person or are there more than one Edward Green Fletcher.
Any thoughts or advice on this would be welcome.
Liz

[maddys52]

 Edward Green Fletcher died in Heanor 1780 and was buried in Horsley 5 Feb 1780.

Edward Green Fletcher Buried Heanor 22 Mar 1805
I think the first death is of Edward senior and the second of Edward junior

There is a John, son of Edward and Elizabeth FLETCHER baptised at Heanor on 18 March 1783.

[maddys52]

Mary Fletcher baptized 5th Feb 1778, Shirland parents Edward Green Fletcher & Elizabeth Fletcher
Mary Fletcher baptized 5th Mar 1778, Shirland parents Edward Green Fletcher & Elizabeth his wife

Are the two Marys the same person or are there more than one Edward Green Fletcher.

I think the 5th March baptism is the parish record, and 5th Feb the Bishop's Transcript. So I would say an error was made in the BT. 

[maddys52]

Edward Green Fletcher died in Heanor 1780 and was buried in Horsley 5 Feb 1780.

The burial was 5 Feb 1790, so my previous reply (#1) doesn't really help with determining which Edward died when. 

[maddys52]

Just for interest, there is an Edward Green FLETCHER holding East India stock (acquired 6 Oct 1772) - "500" - not sure if this means 500 shares or £500 worth.

"A list of the names of all the proprietors of East India stock; distinguishing the principal stock each proprietor now holds, and the time when such proprietors became possessed thereof"
Author: Donaldson, Jas East India Company
Publication Date: 1773

[maddys52]

I meant to add earlier that "sojourner" is not an occupation. A sojourner is someone who is temporarily staying in a parish, ie from somewhere else.

It does seem a bit confusing to me that the record says "sojourner, of this parish". A sojourner normally implies he was not living in the parish and therefore not entitled to Settlement Rights, however as the "of this parish" was not crossed out, I don't know. He must have been living there for the requisite time to call the banns before marriage (as the banns say "both of this parish"). Confusing. 

Though looking at it again, there is a mark before "of this parish" - maybe it means "not".  Maybe it doesn't even say "sojourner" ? Someone more knowledgeable than me might be able to comment and clear it up. 

[spendlove]

Hi,

Confirm it does say Sojourner of this Parish, as stated in Phillimore Heanor Marriages.

Edward Green Fletcher = Elizabeth Fletcher dau of a Samuel Fletcher of Heanor.

Think you will find that Samuel Fletcher Snr was the brother of Goodere Fletcher of Heanor died 1771
Will on Ancestry probated Canterbury.  Various requests but bulk of estate goes to Samuel Fletcher
Son of my brother Samuel.

Suggest that Elizabeth is dau of Samuel Fletcher Snr, and that Edward Green Fletcher is of Horsley Derbys.

Are you aware of the following items

https://archive.org/details/fletcherhouseofl00flet/page/300/mode/1up?q=Edward+green+fletcher”

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/f2e87cb0-7dc5-404f-ab64-bceade9297fc

https://calmview.derbyshire.gov.uk/calmview/TreeBrowse.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog&field=RefNo&key=D255%2FT%2F66


There are probably many more documents, also Bullivants are witness to marriage of Edward Green Fletcher and also mentioned in will of Goodere  a John Bullivant is his Brother in Law.

Well off family so sure you will find original documents etc.

Spendlove


NOTE - sorry have typed in error that Elizabeth was dau of Samuel Fletcher Snr,  it should read Senior or Junior.

[g eli]

Thank you maddys52 and spendlove for your interest.
I have modified the date of EG senior to 1790, I made a mistake copying my notes.
The link to the Fletcher House of Lace caught me by surprise, since I have a copy, those Fletchers were my maternal ancestors, I was trying to find a connection to my OH's ancestors and never considered that there might be a connection.
I will have to read those sections more carefully,also look at wills etc. I did glance at Fletcher Bullivant's will and that did show some connections to Heanor and area.
I am finding the Fletcher name in several branches of both mine and my OH but they don't appear to be connected.
Liz

[spendlove]

Hi Liz

How wonderful to have a copy of the book, very envious.

Page 300 discussing the marriage of Fletcher and Wild, suggests that Samuel re-married a Mary Richardson 2.5.1746.  This marriage was by Licence now had a look at this Licence which states:-

Samuel Fletcher parish of Heanor aged 23 years, a bachelor, Tanner.
Mary Richardson of Stanley, Parish of Spondon aged 24 years, spinster

If the above Samuel had been married previously it wood state Widower.

The child born to Samuel Fletcher  and Mary? Was Bpt 18 Jan 1746/7, so could have been the child
Of either of these separate marriages.

Have book by Kerry and will take a look to see if he makes any comments.

Spendlove