Uniform Identification

[Kincaid444]

Good morning, I hope everyone is well and safe,

This photo is purportedly my friend's great grandfather, Arthur Alexander Pipe, Barnsley greengrocer who served throughout the war in 24 Fire Command (Lancs & Ches) RGA.    His attestation form states he had no previous military service,.

We are confused that his uniform appears more cavalry orientated, he is even wearing spurs, and the cap badge doesn't't look like Royal Garrison Artillery.

Any help would be appreciated - many thanks

[tonepad]

The cap badge looks like Duke of Lancaster's Own Yeomanry or possibly another Yeomanry.

https://www.militariazone.com/helmet-cap-badges/ww1-2-duke-of-lancashire-s-own-yeomanry-cap-badge-/itm24412#.YBZrouj7TIU


There appears to be an Artillery Grenade Collar Badge

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_of_Lancaster%27s_Own_Yeomanry

If another Yeomanry:
"The remaining 25 regiments were converted to brigades of the Royal Field Artillery between 1920 and 1922"

Duke of Lancaster's Own Yeomanry remained as cavalry in the 1920s, but became Royal Artillery in WW2




Tony

[Kincaid444]

Good morning, Tony,  and thank you for an excellent reply - I wondered if he had perhaps, after the war, joined one of the new Territorial Army units, and though I am not an expert by a million miles, there seemed a yeomanry look about him . . .  many years ago, when a territorial myself, I remember passing an army lorry with a fancy regimental badge on the door with the label "something Yeomanry" underneath it, and it was an artillery unit, which confused me at the time.

Thank you again, and for the links

Kincaid

[jim1]

Although the cap badge is quite indistinct it's
Royal Engineers as are the flaming grenade collar dogs.
Although he may look Cavalry orientated the horse was
the main source of transport & used extensively by the RE.

[Kincaid444]

Hi Jim,

Of course, I thought the badge looked engineer-like, I was myself a Sapper with 42 Fld Son RE for three years before transferring - I am staring to wonder if my friend has got the wrong photo - everything else he told me fits with the army records I found , Barnsley greengrocer and his name.   but the army records are for a RGA soldier.

I grasped thankfully at Tony's good answer because it fitted with expectations - I will ask my friend if there are any notations on the photo, or is he going on family hearsay.

Thank you Jim

[jim1]

Your man was in 284 Siege Bty. RGA.

[ShaunJ]

Is it possibly Arthur Alexander Pipe's brother Albert Nelson Pipe who was a Driver in the Royal Engineers (458009) ? 

[jim1]

I think ShaunJ has come up trumps again.

[Kincaid444]

Dear Shaun, God bless you . .  a rhetorical blessing as I am not a religious type . .  I was having a coffee and a marmalade sandwich an hour ago and I thought . . "Perhaps the photo is of one of his brothers" . . . I had a look at army records, choosing one brother, in this case William George, to find he was indeed in the Royal Engineers . . .  and now Shaun has found ANOTHER!

William George Pipes records are burn and water damaged, and contain little in formation - and I will look for the ones that Shaun found.

Thank you Shaun, and everyone else who took the trouble too help

Kincaid