Guernsey - Thomas BISHOP and Jane CURNOW

[enzfan]

I am looking for the marriage and baptisms relating to this couple in Guernsey from 1851 through to 1860.

Thomas Bishop (wheelwright and widower) can be found living in St Martin, Guernsey in the 1851 census with his daughter, Caroline and two sons, Thomas and James. All are born in Somerset. Also in the residence is a Mary Ann Webb and her son, William.

According to someone else and not substantiated, Thomas married a Cornish girl, Jane Curnow on the 21st July, 1853 in St Andrews Church, St Peter Port. The couple then went on to have at least three children - Amelia Jane (1854 and on FamilySearch), William (1858, no record) and one other daughter (no record) and whose name I cannot find.

Thomas and his family, including his two sons, Thomas and James from an earlier marriage, then came to New Zealand in 1860.

I would vey much appreciate any help that anyone can give with regards to this couple and their children.

Regards
Robyn from New Zealand

[mckha489]

Can you please outline your particular path back to Thomas on Guernsey?
I am a bit confused by what I am seeing in trees.

Presumably you have some information from NZ certificates.

Trees are saying these births are theirs from the NZ BDM
Are any of them your ancestor?  It’s a big gap from 1854 to 1863.

1869/36583   Bishop   Valdemar Alfred         Jane   Thomas   
1863/19147   Bishop   Elizabeth                 Jane   Thomas   
1866/31068   Bishop   Cecilia Avis         Jane   Thomas

[mckha489]

Obit for Thomas Coats Bishop says it is just he and his brother James Coats  Bishop who came to NZ in 1860

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/CL19130606.2.23?items_per_page=10&phrase=2&query=T.+C.+bishop&snippet=true&title=CL

[enzfan]

Hi there

Definitely him in Guernsey in 1851. I have him living in Ilchester, Somerset in 1841 with his first wife, Susan COATE.

Yes three more children were born in NZ after their arrival.

Yes you are correct about the information on the obituary. And that was really confusing because the only BISHOP on the passenger list was Thomas, his wife, three sons and two daughters which complete threw me. Other people have Thomas Bishop senior dying in Somerset. But anyway...

I had my brother's DNA done and and found the connection to the second family. Few people have made this link. Unfortunately the Balclutha cemetery records were lost in a fire in 1911.

I've got all children but the missing daughter who came out on the Chili in 1860.

Robyn

[mckha489]

Does one of the birth certs confirm Jane is née Curnow?

[trish1120]

BISHOP, WILLIAM mother maiden name CURNOE** 
GRO Reference: 1858  S Quarter in REDRUTH  Volume 05C  Page 252

[enzfan]

Thanks for confirming William's birth  . Interesting that he wasn't born in Guernsey. I don't have any birth certificates for any of the other children

[enzfan]

I have Jane's death printout - copy of original death entry - which gives maiden name and number and gender of children alive at time of death

[mckha489]

What does it say about when and where she was married? 
It is supposed to say where, and at what age. (Of course informant may not have known)