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Re: Louth Lodge dunmore
« Reply #18 on: Friday 02 September 22 13:11 BST (UK) »
Plus this thread is from 16 Feb 2021

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Re: Louth Lodge dunmore
« Reply #19 on: Friday 02 September 22 13:13 BST (UK) »
Plus this thread is from 16 Feb 2021

These three overlapping threads are from Feb.2021, Mar.2021 and Dec.2021-
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;sa=topics;u=317717
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Re: Louth Lodge dunmore
« Reply #21 on: Friday 02 September 22 14:17 BST (UK) »
I can't find my grandad birth certificate any where

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie
Maiden surnames of mothers and dates of births are shown in results table for births registered during the years you think your grandfather was born.
A search for James Brady births registered 1916-1920 anywhere in Ireland produces 131 results. They include babies with other surnames if mother's maiden surname was Brady. Select the option to put results in order of relevance. That will place James Brady births on the list before those with other surnames.
As you're not certain where your granddad was born you may have to consider them all.
Either print them off or make a note of each James Brady birth, including date of birth, registration district and mother's maiden surname.
Then as he was, according to your aunt, a twin, search for other Brady births in each of those districts in the same year/s and with the same maiden surname. If you get any matches, check if date of birth was the same (or a day apart in case twins were born either side of midnight). There's an advanced search page where you can enter relevant information. Select "More search options".

This will only work if James was a twin and if his forename was included on the birth registration.

Someone else may be able to suggest a quicker method of filtering results.   
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Re: Louth Lodge dunmore
« Reply #22 on: Friday 02 September 22 15:22 BST (UK) »
I have had alook and there is not one with his date of birth wish is the 11 may. I am starting to want to give it up and just throw the towel in

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Re: Louth Lodge dunmore
« Reply #23 on: Friday 02 September 22 15:45 BST (UK) »
I have had alook and there is not one with his date of birth wish is the 11 may. I am starting to want to give it up and just throw the towel in

That may not have been his correct date of birth. Even the year may not have been correct. Or the date may be correct but a different date might be on the birth registration.
A member of my family has an official birthday (on birth certificate) and a real one. A cousin of mine didn't know the date of her Irish-born dad's birth. Birthdates of my mother and grandmother were different in baptism registers to dates on their birth certificates. Age of one of my uncles was wrong on 1939 Register. I know of a family in Mayo which gave incorrect birthdates for all their children when registering their births.

The method I suggested in my previous reply is a way to search for births of a James Brady who was a twin. It's time-consuming but it's a logical approach.     
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Re: Louth Lodge dunmore
« Reply #24 on: Friday 02 September 22 15:52 BST (UK) »
Thank you I will try it this weekend and see what I come up. See as well my mum had always told me that my nana was always 9 or 10 years older than my nana and she was born in 1906 so I'm going to do the search from 1915

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Re: Louth Lodge dunmore
« Reply #25 on: Friday 02 September 22 17:01 BST (UK) »
You are going around in circles making things much more difficult for yourself than needs to be. Just going back on THIS thread what you say you have is-

_ Brady m. _ (d.1919 childbirth)
1. Twin son
2. Twin daughter
3. James Brady (1919 or c1916?) m. Bridget Cunningham (1906)
     a. Michael Brady (1941 Louth Lodge-dec.)
     b. Daughter

There should be the following documents in vital records (births, marriages, deaths)-
1) marriage of James Brady & Bridget Cunningham
2) birth of James Brady c1919
3) death of _ Brady (c1919 in childbirth)
4) births of twin Brady children before 1918
5) marriage of parents to James Brady & twins before 1918

Yet, you are apparently unable to find any of those registrations online.

The only marriage for a James Brady to a Cunningham in Ireland from 1935-1942 is the one found earlier in Dublin were the bridge is Mary not Bridget. A Joseph Brady, herd, is listed as James' father.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1940/08839/5196297.pdf
In the 1911 census there are 35 Joseph Bradys who are married (several argricultural labourers but no shepherds) and 151 Joseph Bradys who are single (many too young to have a child in 1919). Taking the ones age 15 and older there is one listed as herd but ag. labs and farmer's sons cannot be ruled out-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Westmeath/Winetown/Shinglis/879511/

More to follow...
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Re: Louth Lodge dunmore
« Reply #26 on: Friday 02 September 22 17:19 BST (UK) »
Here's Shinglis townland-
https://www.townlands.ie/westmeath/rathconrath/ballymore/winetown/shinglis/
These are the registration districts in Westmeath- Athlone, Ballymahon, Castletown, Delvin, Granard, Mullingar, Tullamore. Shinglis is in Ballymahon R.D.
Joseph Brady's birth in 1895 gives his mother as Mary (nee Lynam) and father as Thomas Brady, also a herd-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1895/02192/1828981.pdf
I can't find a marriage for this joseph in Ireland from 1911-1915.
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