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John Smith - Is this him?
« on: Saturday 20 February 21 01:47 GMT (UK) »
It may be a long shot with a name like "John Smith" but hopefully someone can help here.

My ancestor John Smith married Elizabeth Rigden at Hambledown in October 1761.

I have been trying for some time to locate his christening and so far the only one I can find is for a John Smith christened in Faversham in 1737 [son of George and Sarah].

Could this be the same man? I'm not totally sure how far the two parishes are from each other.

What do you think? Can anyone suggest any other possible candidates?

Many Thanks
Matt


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Re: John Smith - Is this him?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 20 February 21 03:23 GMT (UK) »
Commiserations I have a John Smith too but not yours.

UK geography not being my forte I find google maps useful.
Put in both places and directions and hey presto.
Often the walking route is shorter.
Mine said about 80kms but there might be an historic place closer.

Start with the wedding and if there, with the witnesses and the trade of the groom if shown.
Are you lucky enough to have it by license then look for bonds and allegations?
See if it made the newspapers, her surname is distinctive enough for a quick check.

What were the kids names, if none were George you can probably rule him out as John's father.

Smith and the trade might turn up something. Maybe a son followed the dad's trade and maybe the grandfather's trade.

Not definitive but all pointers
 Remember too not everything is online
and not everything on line is indexed or indexed properly.

I have gone back or forward thru on line registers
and found folk not indexed.
So it might be worth a stroll thru the Hambledon register.
Did he leave a will or did her relatives. Any hints there?

National Archives digitised records are free at the moment so its worth the odd punt.

Daft as it seems google "John Smith" "Elizabeth Rigden"
and any other delimiters and see what happens.
Some one might be coming form the other side so to speak.

Good luck
Regards
pH

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Re: John Smith - Is this him?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 20 February 21 08:07 GMT (UK) »
Faversham to HaRbledown, near Canterbury (where the marriage took place) is around 8 miles.  :)
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Re: John Smith - Is this him?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 20 February 21 18:02 GMT (UK) »
Commiserations I have a John Smith too but not yours.

UK geography not being my forte I find google maps useful.
Put in both places and directions and hey presto.
Often the walking route is shorter.
Mine said about 80kms but there might be an historic place closer.

Start with the wedding and if there, with the witnesses and the trade of the groom if shown.
Are you lucky enough to have it by license then look for bonds and allegations?
See if it made the newspapers, her surname is distinctive enough for a quick check.

What were the kids names, if none were George you can probably rule him out as John's father.

Smith and the trade might turn up something. Maybe a son followed the dad's trade and maybe the grandfather's trade.

Not definitive but all pointers
 Remember too not everything is online
and not everything on line is indexed or indexed properly.

I have gone back or forward thru on line registers
and found folk not indexed.
So it might be worth a stroll thru the Hambledon register.
Did he leave a will or did her relatives. Any hints there?

National Archives digitised records are free at the moment so its worth the odd punt.

Daft as it seems google "John Smith" "Elizabeth Rigden"
and any other delimiters and see what happens.
Some one might be coming form the other side so to speak.

Good luck
Regards
pH

Hi

Many  thanks for all your suggestions. Ironically I have a number of other Smith ancestors who have all been easier to track, either because they have unusual names or because they have middle names.

My post should have read "Harbledown" and not "Hambledown" so that was an error on my part. Sorry for the confusion.

Matt


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Re: John Smith - Is this him?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 20 February 21 18:03 GMT (UK) »
Faversham to HaRbledown, near Canterbury (where the marriage took place) is around 8 miles.  :)

Oops! Sorry I should have put Harbledown not Hambledown lol!

Thanks for the correction.

Matt

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Re: John Smith - Is this him?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 21 February 21 00:40 GMT (UK) »
I've just discovered another possible candidate:

John Smith son of Thomas and Ann christened 5 April 1725 at Boughton under Blean

Boughton under Blean is about 4.5 miles from Harbledown.

Now I have two possible John Smiths lol! Hoping I can kill one off or find some evidence to help discount once.

Matt