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I’m researching the parents of Thomas Geen b.1818-1821 Bishops Tawton, near Barnstaple, Devon. He married a Susan Martin and they had numerous children.
In 1841 family are living in Braunton, Barnstaple.
In 1851, 1861 and 1871 they reside in Bideford.

I have found a baptism for a Thomas Geen baptised 8 Dec 1818 in Bishops Tawton, Devon.  Father William Geen, Mother Eliz: Film number 916815.

I cannot find William Geen and wife Elizabeth on any census.

An Ancestry tree shows Thomas’s father as William 40 and mother Tomasin 35, with small children living in Barnstaple on the 1841 census. The record states William Geen – ag labourer – residing Braunton.  So, the area could be right, but by 1841 Thomas is with wife Susan and young son Thomas and he is 23 years old, so unlikely to be the son of Tomasin aged 35.

It could be that Tomasin is William’s second wife but I can’t find a death record for Elizabeth or a marriage record for either Elizabeth or Tomasin to William Geen.

Can anyone help establish who Thomas Geen’s parents are and find them on the census records? Thanks.

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Re: Parents of Thomas GEEN born 1818-1821 Bishops Tawton, nr Barnstaple, Devon
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 09 March 21 17:08 GMT (UK) »
Here's the marriage record for Elizabeth Corney to William Geen in 1818 in Ashford By Barnstaple, Devon:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NKYM-7LW

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Re: Parents of Thomas GEEN born 1818-1821 Bishops Tawton, nr Barnstaple, Devon
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 09 March 21 17:09 GMT (UK) »
Thomas Geen married Susan in 1840, the marriage should tell you who his father was
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Re: Parents of Thomas GEEN born 1818-1821 Bishops Tawton, nr Barnstaple, Devon
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 09 March 21 19:05 GMT (UK) »
Thanks. Well, William is Thomas’s father, and having checked where Ashford is in relation to Barnstaple I’m happy with the baptism that you suggest. So I’m looking at a marriage for William pre registration.


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Re: Parents of Thomas GEEN born 1818-1821 Bishops Tawton, nr Barnstaple, Devon
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 10 March 21 08:37 GMT (UK) »
So I’m looking at a marriage for William pre registration.

Have you tried freereg.
https://www.freereg.org.uk/
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Re: Parents of Thomas GEEN born 1818-1821 Bishops Tawton, nr Barnstaple, Devon
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 10 March 21 13:14 GMT (UK) »
William GEEN of Heanton Punchard married Elizabeth CORNEY 1 Feb 1818 Ashford
A William GEEN (bachelor) married Thomazin COCKRAM 8 May 1827 Stoke Rivers
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Re: Parents of Thomas GEEN born 1818-1821 Bishops Tawton, nr Barnstaple, Devon
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 10 March 21 16:01 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for your suggestions.

The marriage of William Geen to Mary Ann Payne, Marwood, 15 Nov 1802 - I'm considering it but need to find some connection. (I had forgotten about FreeReg).

Fact I know - Thomas Geen and Sarah Martin's marriage certificate states that Thomas's father, William, was a farmer.

I've looked at various William Geen plus wife/family in 1841 and 1851 in & around Barnstaple.
1851 - same family below is a possible:

William Geen 1793 born Heanton Punchardon - farmer of 60 acres employing 1 labourer
Elizabeth (wife) 1799 born Ashford
Sarah 32 (1819)
Mary 18 (1833)
Elizabeth 15 (1836)
William (another relative) 9

1841
William Geen 1793 born Heanton - Ag Lab
Betty (wife)   1796 born Devon
John 1820
Mary 1833
Elizabeth 1836

The marriage of William Geen to Elizabeth Corney 1/2/1818 took place in Ashford by Barnstaple (fits with birth place of wife Elizabeth). The baptism I thought was my Thomas Geen's - 8 Dec 1818 - took place in Bishop's Tawton.  5 miles apart, possible.

Still not quite there. 
Any more thoughts?


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Re: Parents of Thomas GEEN born 1818-1821 Bishops Tawton, nr Barnstaple, Devon
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 10 March 21 16:36 GMT (UK) »
I think there are 2 different William & Elizabeth GEENS as there are too many children baptised in the same year in differnet locations:
William GEEN of Heaton Punchardon = Elizabeth CORNEY 1 Dec 1818 at Ashford
Ashford 13 Apr 1818 Sarah Corney GEEN dau of William, labourer & Elizabeth - 2 months after marriage.
Heanton Punchardon 1 Oct 1820 John GEEN son of William & Elizabeth of Heanton P (Ashford crossed out), labourer
Heanton Punchardon 13 Apr 1823 William son of William & Elizabeth of Heanton P, labourer

A William GEEN was buried at Bishops Tawton 31 Aug 1830 aged 50.
A William GEEN = Elizabeth SELDON were married at High Bray 2 Oct 1806
Charles (next to High Bray) 5 Apr 1807 John GEEN son of William & Elizabeth
Bishops Tawton 12 May 1816 Richard GEEN son of William & Elizabeth of Tawton, farmer
Bishops Tawton 1 Dec 1818 Thomas GEEN son of William & Elizabeth of Tawton, farmer
Bishops Tawton 10 Sep 1826 Elizabeth Jane dau of William & Elizabeth of Tawton, farmer
Bishops Tawton 14 Sep 1823 Richard GEEN son of William & Elizabeth of Tawton, Yeoman
Bishops Tawton 17 Jun 1829 Ann GEEN dau of William & Elizabeth of Tawton, farmer.


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Re: Parents of Thomas GEEN born 1818-1821 Bishops Tawton, nr Barnstaple, Devon
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 10 March 21 16:48 GMT (UK) »


William Geen 1793 born Heanton Punchardon - farmer of 60 acres employing 1 labourer
Elizabeth (wife) 1799 born Ashford
Sarah 32 (1819)
Mary 18 (1833)
Elizabeth 15 (1836)
William (another relative) 9


Sarah Corney Geen baptised at Ashford 13 April 1818
Probable son Jon baptised October 1820 at Heanton Punchardon
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