Searching for Patricia

[tweekymum63]

Monica

Patricia's fathers name and occupation are not on the registration.
I am thinking that Patricia was English with Scottish ancestry i.e. father and/of mother and that dad's father, whom is unknown is full Scottish.
I have found a DNA link to a 3rd Cousin who is Scottish and she definitely does not have Patricia, but there is a missing link that we believe could be dad's dad.

Jean

[bbart]

Regarding the 1939 note to "see page 2 book 2":

I started tracking other people around with that note, and finally found that page.  I have no idea of why people were entered there, but almost all of them are still blacked out, which is why your Patricia isn't showing up there.

Example: look up Mary Payne, West Yorkshire, born 02 Feb 1918
Ancestry will show her twice.  One entry says to "see page 2 book 2" on the right side.
(Using the navigation above any 1939 image go to Yorkshire (West Riding)   -  Featherstone UD -- KMWD  Image 3 of 29)

The other entry will actually be that page. Nothing is different in her information though, same address etc.  (Using the navigation above any 1939 image go to Yorkshire (West Riding)   -  Featherstone UD -- KMWD  Image 27 of 29)

There is an entry above Mary Payne that is Moor Rd., and one after her on the following page, so for some reason, over time, people in the area were re-entered.  The only thing I can think of is it was to do with increasing rations for whatever reason? 

I'm not sure if Ancestry can unblock her name on that page; it might be worth asking them!

[tweekymum63]

Thanks bbart for the info, its still only showing one entry so ill get in touch with Ancestry and maybe the GRO and see if they can help 

[carol8353]

I wonder if getting Harry's service record might have anything useful about Patricia on it?

[rosie99]

I'm not sure if Ancestry can unblock her name on that page; it might be worth asking them!

I think that you have to go through the National Archives to unblock someone on the 1939 register, you need their death certificate and I know there is a charge.  Alternatively FindMyPast will do it free of charge with the death certificate to those with a subscription.

[louisa maud]

Worth a try Tweekymum

LM

[tweekymum63]

I dont think I'd be able to as i dont have a definitive death date or certificate.

[Dundee]

Her Fathers names was Richard Patrick Morgan, listed as Deceased on her marriage certificate, but again I cant find anything to confirm this

Leon Patrick Davenport 26th August 1941

I will put this pure speculation here for when the 1921 census hopefully gives Patricia's place of birth.

There was a Richard MORGAN born in 1891 in Liverpool, the son of Richard MORGAN and Margaret SWEETMAN.  His brothers were Thomas, Joseph, William, Christopher and Leo.

MORGAN, RICHARD
Mother's maiden surname: SWEETMAN
GRO Reference: 1891  M Quarter in WEST DERBY  Volume 08B  Page 293     

They were a Catholic family.

Richardus MORGAN
Birth Date:    6 Feb 1891
Baptism Date:    16 Feb 1891
Baptism Place:    St Francis Xavier's (Francisci Xavarii), Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Father:    Richardi MORGAN
Mother:    Margarethae SWEETMAN

1891

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:7SYZ-S3Z

1901

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X92B-ZQ2

1911

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWTJ-KQD
(The youngest child is 'Leo' not George.  Even if they thought it was 'Geo.' that is no excuse for transcribing it as 'George'.)

I believe he married in 1920 to Eliza CHRISTIE for two reasons - his birthdate in 1939 is an exact match and he named a son Leo Patrick.

Marriages Mar 1920

CHRISTY,    Eliza E    
MORGAN,    Richard R   
Chorlton    8c   1726   

Without seeing the certificate I have no explanation for the middle 'R' apart from the possibility that it was wrongly transcribed to the indexes.

In 1919 he is Richard Patrick MORGAN on the electoral register with his mother Margaret and brothers Christopher, Joseph and William at 36 Eastbourne Street, Everton.

Debra 

[Dundee]

Dads DNA results show Ancestry firmly based in Scotland 56% and Northern England and Europe 31%

All your DNA results tell you is that you are a match with other people who have researched their families and found them to be from those areas. If their research is wrong (and there is plenty of that) or they haven't yet expanded their search beyond recent generations then other possible places will not be included.

Debra