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Edward Quilliam Moore circa 1841 Liverpool
« on: Thursday 18 March 21 11:41 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone help to untangle the records of Edward Quilliam Moore.
I have a marriage with Alice Heaton in 1st qtr 1864 in Liverpool, Lancashire, England ref 8b 239 and the census for 1881 which places the family in Kirkdale, West Derby, Lancashire.  The listed children all check out with the mother's maiden name as Heaton.  Alice's. birth is given as circa 1844 in Liverpool.
The census includes Edward's mother in law as Margaret Brian  born circa 1809 in the Isle of Mann.   I have a marriage between William Brian and Margaret Quillain  in the 4th qtr 1843 in West Derby ref 8b 718.  This is where I am stuck.
I can't find a link between Alice Heaton and Margaret Quillain nor can I find a link between Edward Quillian Moore and the Quillian middle name.
Any help to untangle tis will be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Edward Quilliam Moore circa 1841 Liverpool
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 18 March 21 11:47 GMT (UK) »
Alice Heatons marriage names her father as Robert Heaton, occ Whitesmith.  One of the witnesses was a Henry Heaton
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Re: Edward Quilliam Moore circa 1841 Liverpool
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 18 March 21 12:09 GMT (UK) »
The census includes Edward's mother in law as Margaret Brian  born circa 1809 in the Isle of Mann.   I have a marriage between William Brian and Margaret Quillain  in the 4th qtr 1843 in West Derby ref 8b 718.  This is where I am stuck.


I think you mean 1853.

The Margaret Quilliam that married William Brian was a spinster age 47. Her father William Quilliam occ Weaver.
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Re: Edward Quilliam Moore circa 1841 Liverpool
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 18 March 21 12:43 GMT (UK) »
A bit more of the puzzle!

1861 Census
West Derby, Lancs
Thomas Spencer   50 Head Mar Coal Dealer
Catherine Spencer   51 Wife born Douglas, Isle of Man
William Christian   23 Stepson born ditto
Thomas Christian   17 Stepson born ditto
Margaret Bryan           52 Sister in Law Widow Formerly Cook born Douglas, Isle of Man***
Edward Moore       26 Nephew Unm Porter born Liverpool
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)


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Re: Edward Quilliam Moore circa 1841 Liverpool
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 18 March 21 12:48 GMT (UK) »
Marriage:
19 Aug 1850 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire
Thomas Spencer Full Age, Carter, Widower, Wood St
Catherine Christian, Full Age, Widow, Gt George St
Fathers:
James Spencer, Farmer
William Quilliam, Weaver
Witnesses: John Quilliam; Saul? Farrall
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Edward Quilliam Moore circa 1841 Liverpool
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 18 March 21 12:53 GMT (UK) »
A bit more of the puzzle!

1861 Census
West Derby, Lancs
Thomas Spencer   50 Head Mar Coal Dealer
Catherine Spencer   51 Wife born Douglas, Isle of Man
William Christian   23 Stepson born ditto
Thomas Christian   17 Stepson born ditto
Margaret Bryan           52 Sister in Law Widow Formerly Cook born Douglas, Isle of Man***
Edward Moore       26 Nephew Unm Porter born Liverpool

It looks from that census that the 1881 should possibly have read Mother and not Mother in Law to Edward. 
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Re: Edward Quilliam Moore circa 1841 Liverpool
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 18 March 21 13:11 GMT (UK) »
That is very possible Rosie, bowing out for tonight as my bedtime :)
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Re: Edward Quilliam Moore circa 1841 Liverpool
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 18 March 21 15:03 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for all that.  Assuming that Margaret Brain is his mother as suggested how do we get to the surname Moore?

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Re: Edward Quilliam Moore circa 1841 Liverpool
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 18 March 21 15:16 GMT (UK) »
Presumably an illegitimate birth for Edward - fathers surname Moore.  Have you looked for them in 1851
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