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brick wall in Heywoods of Radcliffe family research
« on: Friday 26 March 21 22:48 GMT (UK) »
dear members i am researching Heywood family of Radcliffe Lancashire. I got back to1724  a marriage between John Harriworth or Hoaworth or Howard or Heywood or Hainworth of Mitton b1699 ? to Mary Allen of Radcliffe b1703 ? is anyone else having problems with these people or can you help me past this wall .regards Roy

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Re: brick wall in Heywoods of Radcliffe family research
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 27 March 21 13:06 GMT (UK) »
Marriage: 7 Apr 1724 St Mary, Radcliffe, Lancashire, England
John Harriworth - Mitton
Mary Allen - Ratcliffe
    Married by Bans
SO - he is HARRIWORTH at the marriage
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Baptism: 3 Mar 1703/4 St Mary, Radcliffe, Lancashire, England
Mary Allen - daughter of Richard Allen
    Abode: Radcliffe
    Occupation: Blacksmith
    Notes: Born and Baptized
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PROBABLE marriage of Richard Allen ??
Marriage: 24 Sep 1698 St Mary, Radcliffe, Lancashire, England
Richard Allin -
Ellen Rosscow -
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Re: brick wall in Heywoods of Radcliffe family research
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 27 March 21 13:13 GMT (UK) »
Thank you very much ,the problem i found is Mary Allen b1703 father Richard Allen blacksmith both died 1706?, so who is Mary? John Harriworth is married to? I can't find any Roscows who could be Ellen Roscows family or even her 1669? birth .Kind Regards Roy

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Re: brick wall in Heywoods of Radcliffe family research
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 27 March 21 13:25 GMT (UK) »
Burial: 29 Apr 1705 St Mary, Radcliffe, Lancashire, England
Richard Allen -
    Abode: Warth, Radcliffe
    Source: LDS Family Search
Burial: 29 Apr 1706 St Mary, Radcliffe, Lancashire, England
Richard Allen -
    Abode: the Warth

can't find Mary's burial though 1706 ?

is this her ?
Burial: 19 May 1707 St Mary, Radcliffe, Lancashire, England
Mary Allen -
    Abode: Radcliffe
.a pretty common name Mary Allen - do you have an age of the Mary Allen you found buried 1706 ?
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Re: brick wall in Heywoods of Radcliffe family research
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 27 March 21 16:47 GMT (UK) »
Garstonite I have found

Baptism: 3 Mar 1703/4 St Mary, Radcliffe, Lancs.
Mary Allen - daughter of Richard Allen
    Abode: Radcliffe
    Occupation: Blacksmith
    Notes: Born and Baptized
    Source: LDS Family Search

Burial: 14 Mar 1703/4 St Mary, Radcliffe, Lancs.
Mary Allen - daughter of Richard Allen
    Source: LDS Family Search

Burial: 9 Jun 1708 St Mary, Radcliffe, Lancs.
Richard Allen -
    Abode: Radcliffe
    Occupation: Blacksmith
    Source: LDS Family Search

So I don't think the Mary Allen 1703 is the correct one? Info from Lan opc





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Re: brick wall in Heywoods of Radcliffe family research
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 27 March 21 17:06 GMT (UK) »
The only two Mary Allen's at Radcliffe I can find that survived infancy or are not recorded in the burials

 Baptism: 13 Apr 1708 St Mary, Radcliffe, Lancs.
Mary Allens - female bastard child of Roger Walker, Junr. of Radcliffe & Anne Allens
Abode: Warrington P.
Occupation: Dutch Loom Weaver [father]
    Source: LDS Family Search

Baptism: 16 Oct 1698 St Mary, Radcliffe, Lancs.
Mary Allin - daughter of Richard Allin
    Source: LDS Family Search

Marriage: 24 Sep 1698 St Mary, Radcliffe, Lancs.
Richard Allin -
Ellen Rosscow -
    Register: Marriages 1676 - 1738, Page 36, Entry 3
    Source: Private Transciption

They cut it fine 3 weeks lol Could this be the one that is Mary of this history opinions please.

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Re: brick wall in Heywoods of Radcliffe family research
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 27 March 21 17:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi is it also possible this Mary died and 1703 Mary replaced her ?

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Re: brick wall in Heywoods of Radcliffe family research
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 27 March 21 17:20 GMT (UK) »
Don't think so as the one in 1703/04 baptism Richard the Blacksmith and the childs burial 1703/04 too much of a coincidence?  The child was born and baptised on the same day could be it was sickly and not expected to live?

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Re: brick wall in Heywoods of Radcliffe family research
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 27 March 21 17:26 GMT (UK) »
That is definitely possible
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