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Re: Frank French
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 08 April 21 08:53 BST (UK) »

I found all the other childrens birth registrations apart from Louisa's but there is this entry...am wondering if she changed her name

Name Gladys May French
Registration Year 1898 Registration QuarterOct-Nov-Dec
Registration district Eastbourne
Inferred County Sussex Volume 2b Page70

I wonder if the oldest daughter Louisa May is

Louisa May Turner born Jun 1899 Eastbourne

Have you got the 1901 census for Frank or Emily?  Not finding Louisa at present.

I don't think the birth entry for Gladys May French is your Louisa May French
I believe she belongs to this family and Gladys May can be found with her family on  1911c

1901 c Piece:   882 Folio:   56 Page Number:   10
Luther French   44
Louisa E French   36
Sydney French   18
Emily A French   7
Ella D French   5
Gladdis M French   2
Benjamin P French   11
Uphert French   11
Gwendoline L French   13 (I think perhaps her age should be 13 mths not 13)

FRENCH, ELLA  DAISY     mmn FREEMAN 
GRO Reference: 1896  M Quarter in EASTBOURNE  Volume 02B  Page 78

FRENCH, GLADYS  MAY  mmn   FREEMAN 
GRO Reference: 1898  D Quarter in EASTBOURNE  Volume 02B  Page 70

FRENCH, GWENDOLEN  LOUISE  mmn    FREEMAN 
GRO Reference: 1900  M Quarter in EASTBOURNE  Volume 02B  Page 79
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Re: Frank French
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 08 April 21 11:13 BST (UK) »
Louisa May French age 23, domestic
Port of Departure:   New York
Arrival 12 Jun 1922
Port of Arrival:   Southampton
Ship Name:   Mauretania
Proposed address in UK 19 Bexhill Road, Eastbourne

Reginald TURNER age 21
address 19 Bexhill Road Eastbourne
Departure Date:   10 Feb 1926
Port of Departure:   Southampton, England
Destination Port:   New York, USA
Ship Name:   Aquitania

This address links Louise May FRENCH to William TURNER & Kate (nee HENTY) as previously mentioned the Turner's are living at that address and they have a son named Reginald TURNER born c1904

Louisa had a daughter named Winifred Emily Mair

Miss Winifred Emily MAIR
Residence Place:   425 Summit Ave. , Westfield
Employer:   Plainf Ield-Union Water Company
School:   Scotch Plains High School
Marriage    16 Apr 1955
Marriage Place:   Westfield, New Jersey, USA
Father:    William G. Mair Mother:    Mair
Spouse:   G T Seemon

Winifred E Seemon Age:   74
Birth 21 Jun 1933 Plainfield, New Jersey, USA
Death 13 Mar 2008 New Jersey, USA

and a daughter Lillian

Louise MAIR 32 & Lillian MAIR 2
last address in UK 19 Bexhill Road Eastbourne
Departure 30 May 1931 Southampton
Destination Port:   New York, USA
Ship Name:   Mauretania

Miss Lillian MAIR
School:   Scotch Plains High School
Marriage 24 Dec 1946 Cranford, New Jersey, USA
Father:   William Mair Mother:    Mair
Spouse:    J E Gohring

Lillian A. Gohring Birth 21 Jul 1928
Last Residence:   07076, Scotch Plains, Union, New Jersey
Death 26 Jan 2010
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/79396615/lillian-a.-gohring
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Re: Frank French
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 08 April 21 12:37 BST (UK) »
This FRENCH family are proving very elusive in 1901  ??? I've tried as many variations as I could think of but have still drawn a blank  ???

Frank Francis French born c1858 Brighton Sussex
died 1927 Eastbourne

Fanny Emily French  born c 1872 Selmston Sussex
 died ?

Louisa May French?  born c 1898 Eastbourne
died 1982 US married surname (MAIR) born 26 Feb 1898

Winifred Emily French (mmn Turner) born c 1900 Eastbourne
died 1981 Eastbourne married surname (SPOONER) born 15 Aug 1900

Are either of these Fanny’s death entry? Or did she remarry?

Mar 1919   Eastbourne   2b 134            
Fanny French   age 49      
   
Mar 1939   Eastbourne   2b 148            
Fanny French   age 64

The only reason I can think of as to why Frank F French would not be on the 1901 census is perhaps he was serving in the Army  :-\ Or were the family abroad at the time of 1901 census but their son Frank Jnr. was born 1902 Eastbourne, perhaps they have just been missed or their surname very badly transcribed  ???

As previously mentioned the marriage certificate would be helpful in confirming father's names, occupation etc....obtaining Winifred (1900) or Frank (1902) birth certificates would give you their fathers occupation perhaps different from 1911c and their address in Eastbourne either side of 1901 census then you could check Electoral Register or try searching 1901c using that address.


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Re: Frank French
« Reply #21 on: Friday 09 April 21 11:32 BST (UK) »
Winifred did marry a Spooner and died in Eastbourne.  And Louisa did marry a Mair and moved to the States.

This FRENCH family are proving very elusive in 1901  ??? I've tried as many variations as I could think of but have still drawn a blank  ???

Frank Francis French born c1858 Brighton Sussex
died 1927 Eastbourne

Fanny Emily French  born c 1872 Selmston Sussex
 died ?

Louisa May French?  born c 1898 Eastbourne
died 1982 US married surname (MAIR) born 26 Feb 1898

Winifred Emily French (mmn Turner) born c 1900 Eastbourne
died 1981 Eastbourne married surname (SPOONER) born 15 Aug 1900

Are either of these Fanny’s death entry? Or did she remarry?

Mar 1919   Eastbourne   2b 134            
Fanny French   age 49      
   
Mar 1939   Eastbourne   2b 148            
Fanny French   age 64

The only reason I can think of as to why Frank F French would not be on the 1901 census is perhaps he was serving in the Army  :-\ Or were the family abroad at the time of 1901 census but their son Frank Jnr. was born 1902 Eastbourne, perhaps they have just been missed or their surname very badly transcribed  ???

As previously mentioned the marriage certificate would be helpful in confirming father's names, occupation etc....obtaining Winifred (1900) or Frank (1902) birth certificates would give you their fathers occupation perhaps different from 1911c and their address in Eastbourne either side of 1901 census then you could check Electoral Register or try searching 1901c using that address.