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Joyce Burdett.
« on: Thursday 08 April 21 11:02 BST (UK) »
I have found a death record for a  Joyce Burdett on 29th January 1926 age 14  and a half. From Lisball  farmers child. She died from TB and the informant was an Annie Waller guardian of the above.

Information on irishgenealogyie

I know who Annie Waller nee Thompson is but don't know anything about Joyce.

As I have not come across this before would Annie have had to complete paperwork for this arrangement or could it have been a mutual agreement between families?
Might she have been paid for this or money given for Joyce's upkeep?

At the moment struggling to locate a birth for Joyce. Still looking.

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Re: Joyce Burdett.
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 08 April 21 12:17 BST (UK) »
I have found a death record for a  Joyce Burdett on 29th January 1926 age 14  and a half. From Lisball  farmers child. She died from TB and the informant was an Annie Waller guardian of the above.

For others, here's the link to the death-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1926/04995/4363058.pdf


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Re: Joyce Burdett.
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 08 April 21 16:51 BST (UK) »
Hi there.  Adoption in Northern Ireland became legal in 1929 and before that was arranged informally by organisations or directly between the birth mother and adoptive parents. 

Your post indicates that Joyce Burdett was born around the middle of 1911. Just thinking out loud, what strikes me is how strange the name is in the context of Ireland for that era.  As an example of what I mean:

- taking the 1911 Ireland census as a snapshot, I can only see 17 individuals listed for that surname (unless I'm doing something wrong) - most in Dublin, one in Co. Galway, four in Kings County / Offaly;

- then there is that forename Joyce... again taking the 1911 Ireland census as an example, I can only find 167 persons in the whole of Ireland with that forename (regardless of surname).

And I'm talking about a 1911 Ireland census with approaching 4.4 million people recorded. So I'm perplexed, for one wouldn't make that name up. My suspicion has to be that she came from outside of Ireland.

BTW, just to add.. and if really clutching at straws, I would throw in is this illegitimate birth of a Joyce McClean Burnett to a domestic servant Mary Ann Burnett on 17 October 1911, it took place just south of Ballyclare County Antrim in the right time frame give or take a few months - obviously nowhere near county Cavan - and I'm far from convinced - but just to add it, until it can be ruled out:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1911/01512/1614059.pdf

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Ballylinny/Lisnalinchy/110090/


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Re: Joyce Burdett.
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 08 April 21 17:04 BST (UK) »
I was thinking along the same lines regarding her name.
Am trawling through English records at moment.

However there is a Joy Burdett age 4 in the 1901 Roscommon Ireland census. Parents both English.
I know the age is wrong .
Having trouble finding that family in 1911 census.



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Re: Joyce Burdett.
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 08 April 21 17:31 BST (UK) »
However there is a Joy Burdett age 4 in the 1901 Roscommon Ireland census. Parents both English.
I know the age is wrong .
Having trouble finding that family in 1911 census.

Residents of a house 11 in Cloonfad (Ballydangan, Roscommon)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Roscommon/Ballydangan/Cloonfad/1654842/

The Joyce who died in 1926 was aged 141/2 so born 1911-1912.
This Joy in 1901 was registered with first names Ivy Loes?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1896/02146/1814395.pdf

Second son Gerald (born unnamed with unrecorded first name) born in 1891 in Parsonstown SRD.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1891/02388/1890817.pdf


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Re: Joyce Burdett.
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 08 April 21 18:27 BST (UK) »
Following on from the Joyce McClean Burnett that gaffy found this looks like Mary Ann's family-

Hugh Burnett (c1841/c1832-1907), stone breaker on roads, m.(1880) Charlotte Reid (c1842-aft.1911)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1907/05541/4553867.pdf
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Ahoghill/Ballylummin/923824/
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1907/05541/4553867.pdf
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Lisnagarran/Gortaheran/123683/
1.   Sarah Burnett (c1882-aft.1911)
2.   Mary Ann Burnett (c1890-aft.1901)

Here's an interesting death in 1909 for a newborn Charlotte Burnett-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1909/05473/4531796.pdf
Birth registration confirms mother was Mary Ann Burnett and that Charlotte had a twin called Mary-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1909/01627/1651137.pdf
Note: Mary died 8 hours old (death on same page as Charlotte's)

And another child Charlotte Burnett died 1914 aged 6 months-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1914/05297/4472954.pdf
birth in Dec.1913-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1913/01434/1587900.pdf
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Re: Joyce Burdett.
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 08 April 21 18:32 BST (UK) »
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Re: Joyce Burdett.
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 08 April 21 18:44 BST (UK) »
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!