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Offline Louth21

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Name of parents differ
« on: Friday 09 April 21 01:38 BST (UK) »
I hope this makes sense. I have the following information for Anne (Maria Anne) Morgan:

Birth: 26 FEB 1896 • North Marsh, Dundalk, Louth. Parents: Bernard Morgan and Catherine Mills.

Census: 31 Mar 1901 • Mary Street, Dundalk Urban No. 4., Louth.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Louth/Dundalk_Urban_No__4_/Mary_Street/1562053/

Marriage: 16 MAR 1920 • St. Patrick's Church, Dundalk, Louth. Husband: Peter G Dunne. Father: Bernard Morgan.

Shipping Manifest: 31 AUG 1921 • Mary Dunne, 9 St. Mary's Terrace, Dundalk. Departure from Liverpool to Philadelphia.
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/2997/images/40610_B000944-00008?pId=47252404

I just got her death record, and her parents are listed as Henry Morgan and Mary. I'm positive it's the same person, as I've all the above paperwork plus documents for her three children, she died after giving birth her fourth. Also, I've found a marriage record for Peter Dunne, Widower, from Dundalk, same age and US address, in 1928.

Bernard's father was called Henry and his wife was called Mary. Also, Bernard had a brother called Henry, b. C 1867, who married with a Mary. I wonder whether Peter made a mistake when he filled in her death records?  I'm almost certain I got the right Anne, but would appreciate a second pair of eyes. ???

I want to add that someone on a different post kindly pointed that there's a grave for a Bernard Morgan that well possible could be him. However, there's a mention of a daughter called Anne Donnelly who passed in 1969, while Anne (Dunne) died in 1926. https://billiongraves.com/grave/Henry-Morgan/10861260

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Re: Name of parents differ
« Reply #1 on: Friday 09 April 21 01:40 BST (UK) »
Her obituary:

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Re: Name of parents differ
« Reply #2 on: Friday 09 April 21 07:41 BST (UK) »

Birth: 26 FEB 1896 • North Marsh, Dundalk, Louth. Parents: Bernard Morgan and Catherine Mills.


Anna Maria Morgan
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1896/02173/1823255.pdf

Born North Marsh........Marsh North townland
https://www.townlands.ie/louth/upper-dundalk/dundalk/marsh-north/

Mother Catherine living in Dowdallshill townland
https://www.townlands.ie/louth/upper-dundalk/dundalk/dundalk-rural/dowdallshill/


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Re: Name of parents differ
« Reply #3 on: Friday 09 April 21 11:14 BST (UK) »
This Peter Dunne / Mary Morgan marriage in Dundalk of 16 March 1920 states Bernard as her father.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1920/09261/5352525.pdf

But there's also a John Donnelly / Anna Maria Morgan marriage in Dundalk with a Bernard Morgan as her father here (24 August 1921)

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1921/09234/5341863.pdf

Re the death certificate - I think they're only as accurate as the informant so they could well misremember. But I'm also trying to work out this family and there are *a lot* of Henrys and Bernards and Marys so it takes a lot to keep track of who married/parented who.

Edit: I'm looking into the family of Julia Morgan, who was a sister of your Bernard. I'm trying to find out about all of her siblings so if you want to get in touch or share any information, that'd be great.




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Re: Name of parents differ
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 10 April 21 02:43 BST (UK) »

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Re: Name of parents differ
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 10 April 21 03:11 BST (UK) »
This Peter Dunne / Mary Morgan marriage in Dundalk of 16 March 1920 states Bernard as her father.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1920/09261/5352525.pdf

But there's also a John Donnelly / Anna Maria Morgan marriage in Dundalk with a Bernard Morgan as her father here (24 August 1921)

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1921/09234/5341863.pdf

Re the death certificate - I think they're only as accurate as the informant so they could well misremember. But I'm also trying to work out this family and there are *a lot* of Henrys and Bernards and Marys so it takes a lot to keep track of who married/parented who.

Edit: I'm looking into the family of Julia Morgan, who was a sister of your Bernard. I'm trying to find out about all of her siblings so if you want to get in touch or share any information, that'd be great.

Thank you. I'm positive, looking at the DNA matches, the Anne Mary who passed away in the US is the right one.  It must be there were two Bernards who were seaman, and the one buried at Dowdallshill Saint Patrick Cemetery isn't the right one. I'm going to message you what I have, but I'm not sure whether the information I have is correct.

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Re: Name of parents differ
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 10 April 21 06:16 BST (UK) »
It's probably best you both post your info. here for others to 'pick holes' but it also allows other researchers to find you who may be able to help further to knit it together as rootschat posts show up on google easily?

When/where did each of the parents of Anna Maria die?

A stretch but...is it possible she was brought up by her grandparents & they were the names Peter recalled?

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Re: Name of parents differ
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 10 April 21 09:18 BST (UK) »
Hi Louth21,
In your post you have this family in 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Louth/Dundalk_Urban_No__4_/Mary_Street/1562053/

Do you have anne in 1911?

There are these records:

Death of Kate Morgan 1904 - informant, son Henry
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1904/05639/4586775.pdf

Marriage of Bernard Morgan to Bridget Lennon Markey (living close by in 1901)

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1906/10127/5684534.pdf

1911 - Bridget Markey , widow
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Louth/Dundalk_Urban_No__4/St__Mary_s_Terrace/578983/

I can’t see a death for Bernard nor a birth for Mary Bridget.

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Re: Name of parents differ
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 10 April 21 09:38 BST (UK) »
Just rereading thus:

 Mary Morgan married Peter Dunne -1920
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1920/09261/5352525.pdf
Father Bernard described as a labourer

Anna Maria Morgan married John Donnelly - 1921
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1921/09234/5341863.pdf
Father Bernard is deceased
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