Author Topic: Joseph Henry Edgar, fatally shot & died on 9 July 1902, Armidale, N.S.W.  (Read 2000 times)

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....Joseph had served in the N.S.W. Mounted Rifles in South Africa during the Boer War, and had only arrived back in Australia at the beginning of June 1902. On the evening of Wednesday 9th July, Armidale held a Peace celebration at the local showground in which a re-enactment of an incident in South Africa took place, where Joseph was one of three men who were inside an "armoured train" (actually made of wood), which was ambushed by Boers (in reality, members of local rifle clubs). The attackers had been issued with blank ammunition and instructed to fire above the "train", although two men later admitted to having live ammunition with them. Someone disobeyed orders, and fired directly at the train with at least two shots of live ammunition - Joseph was struck in the leg and stomach by dum-dum bullets, which expanded on impact. He remained conscious for a while, in great pain, but died just after arrival at Armidale Hospital. His mother was with him when he died.
....The funeral service was at St Peter's Cathedral, Armidale, on Friday 11th July, and the burial was at the "Anglican Cemetery." Would that be called Armidale General Cemetery now?
....Not much information was given in the papers about him, not even his age or home address, just that he was a young man and would have been getting to be married a few weeks later. Family attending the funeral were his father, Samuel (his mother wasn't reported as being there), William and Robert Hamilton (uncles), and "numerous relatives."
....He wasn't on Find A Grave, although I've now added him to Armidale General Cemetery (to be changed if that's incorrect).

....I'd be most grateful for any additional information about Joseph. He went through twelve months' of war in South Africa, only to die a month or so after returning home.

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Re: Joseph Henry Edgar, fatally shot & died on 9 July 1902, Armidale, N.S.W.
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 11 April 21 15:05 BST (UK) »
Hi Smilingwillowb,
There is a quite extensive write up of the coroner's inquest in the Armidale Chronicle on Saturday 19th  July.  If you search on Trove and use Trooper Edgar's Death you should be able to find the article.
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Re: Joseph Henry Edgar, fatally shot & died on 9 July 1902, Armidale, N.S.W.
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 11 April 21 15:16 BST (UK) »
Thanks, Kaybron. The inquest lasted for about two weeks, and I've got about three-quarters of the newspaper reports transcribed so far. Even at the start of the inquest, only Joseph's name seems to have been given out, not even that he was an Armidale resident.

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Re: Joseph Henry Edgar, fatally shot & died on 9 July 1902, Armidale, N.S.W.
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 11 April 21 16:13 BST (UK) »
Letitia and Samuel EDGAR are listed on the 1902 NSW electoral roll for NEW ENGLAND, polling place : Armidale.

NSW bdm has a marriage registered 1878, Armidale, for LEtitia  HAMILTON  and Samuel EDGAR.

I am NSW centric, and all four of my grandparents were born in NSW and were adults living in regional NSW by 1902. In that first decade of the 20th century, I have noticed that it is very rare for the mourners names in newspaper cuttings to acknowledge the women folk by name.  I know, as  they told me so, that my grandmothers were not permitted to attend funerals prior to WWI, not even of their own children who had succumbed to childhood illnesses.  Both my Grandmothers were still pained by those pre WWI practices when sharing memories in the 1960s. I was born 1947. 

I don't have immediate quality info on Armidale General Cemetery, but in regional NSW most cemeteries had separate sections for each denomination,  so in the first instance I would consider looking for the Anglican section within the larger general cemetery.   Not all graves had a headstone, and sadly, not all burial records for every cemetery are extant, but I do know that the Armidale district  has many family history buffs, and that Uni of New England has excellent family and local history lecturers.  Have you considered involving UNE?

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Re: Joseph Henry Edgar, fatally shot & died on 9 July 1902, Armidale, N.S.W.
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 11 April 21 16:50 BST (UK) »
Thank you, majm. I'm in England, so the Uni of New England is news to me. I'll look it up, also for any local history groups in Armidale..

Somewhere I have a report of an early 1900s funeral, I think in Wales, which specifically stated that it was for men only.

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Re: Joseph Henry Edgar, fatally shot & died on 9 July 1902, Armidale, N.S.W.
« Reply #5 on: Monday 12 April 21 03:50 BST (UK) »
Some further information, from TROVE

Report of return of soldiers from South Africa, mention of  Joseph Edgar.
Sydney Morning Herald, 1 feb 1902
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/14432688 

An account of the actual incident, followed by an account of the funeral.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/185469803

Detailed reports of evidence at Coroner's inquest
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/185469792
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/185469903
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/185469999
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/185470034
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/185470037

There are many other reports in other Australian newspapers.

Here's a hint for transcribing from TROVE - to the left of the newspaper image is usually a 'translation' into text.  You can copy from this column and paste into word or whatever.  You can also register for TROVE corrections and and make corrections to that text.

Poem in his memory.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/194106772

Judith

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Re: Joseph Henry Edgar, fatally shot & died on 9 July 1902, Armidale, N.S.W.
« Reply #6 on: Monday 12 April 21 04:06 BST (UK) »
Some information about his military career:

http://members.pcug.org.au/~croe/ozb/oz_boer_more.cgi?record=6223

This record (by a volunteer organisation) includes and interesting comment quoted from the Brisbane Telegraph, newspaper date(s) 25.7.1902
Bne. Tele.: There was something about that fatal occurrence in Armidale, Now South Wales, which the Doctor cannot properly understand. 'A sham fight was arranged, during the course of which one of the participants, a young man who had gone through the Boer war unscathed, was horribly wounded with a bullet and died. The jury brought in a verdict of a most remarkable nature. They said that to take ball cartridge to a sham fight was most reprehensible, and therefore the deceased met his death through a bullet wound. It would have been far more to the point to have returned a verdict of wilful murder against somebody unknown
Also his birthdate and place B5204: 'miner born 1879 in Emmaville NSW, next of kin in Armidale'.

Judith

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Re: Joseph Henry Edgar, fatally shot & died on 9 July 1902, Armidale, N.S.W.
« Reply #7 on: Monday 12 April 21 06:59 BST (UK) »

Here's a hint for transcribing from TROVE - to the left of the newspaper image is usually a 'translation' into text.  You can copy from this column and paste into word or whatever.  You can also register for TROVE corrections and and make corrections to that text.

Poem in his memory.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/194106772

Judith

Thank you! I've been copying it all out word by word; this will save a lot of time, and also mean less eye strain for me.

Oh, that poem. I'd seen that, and can't think of a word that adequately sums it up. (Not one I can post here!)


Some information about his military career:

http://members.pcug.org.au/~croe/ozb/oz_boer_more.cgi?record=6223

This record (by a volunteer organisation) includes and interesting comment quoted from the Brisbane Telegraph, newspaper date(s) 25.7.1902
Bne. Tele.: There was something about that fatal occurrence in Armidale, Now South Wales, which the Doctor cannot properly understand. 'A sham fight was arranged, during the course of which one of the participants, a young man who had gone through the Boer war unscathed, was horribly wounded with a bullet and died. The jury brought in a verdict of a most remarkable nature. They said that to take ball cartridge to a sham fight was most reprehensible, and therefore the deceased met his death through a bullet wound. It would have been far more to the point to have returned a verdict of wilful murder against somebody unknown
Also his birthdate and place B5204: 'miner born 1879 in Emmaville NSW, next of kin in Armidale'.

Judith

Fantastic!!!! Again, thank you. That's a resource I've not come across before. You're a star, Judith.

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Re: Joseph Henry Edgar, fatally shot & died on 9 July 1902, Armidale, N.S.W.
« Reply #8 on: Monday 12 April 21 07:20 BST (UK) »
Hi,
What information, apart from what you have, were you especially looking for?

Sue

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Another passionate verse by Matley.  Heartfelt anyway!
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