John crawley

[philrmoon]

Hi

John Crawley b about 1815 Ireland married a  ann Born about 1815 cork Ireland  ??

They moved to pancras London where they had at least 4 children
Including hannah b 1852

And Dennis,  Johanna and ellen

All born in pancras

Can anybody find a marriage please

They are together as a family in 1861 ib pancras

Thanks

[Dundee]

Have you tried looking for the children's birth registrations to find the mother's surname?

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp

Debra 

[Milliepede]

Yes that's the best way of getting a maiden name for Ann then you can look for a marriage complete with surname 

[CaroleW]

You don't say whether you have found them on the 1851 census?  If they had children at that time who were b Ireland - then they married in Ireland

Presume you have already checked freebmd for a marriage so if not found after you check GRO for mmn - then you need to look in Irish records

Son Dennis's birth reg is on freebmd

[philrmoon]

Hi

Yes i spent a good few hours searching on free bmd for a marriage of a john Crawley marriage to a ann

Could not find a marriage

Nor couldn't find them in the 1851 census

Looked at dennis Crawley birth in st pancras  , whitechapel

Found a Dennis Crawley a possibility  mother shay in the gro records

But only one other had the mother as shay

But could not find Dennis in 1851

Its hannah Crawley that i am interested in,
she married a waters, that is something i have found out

Regards Phil

[Milliepede]

But only one other had the mother as shay

This might help rule Shay out or otherwise

Abigail Crawley born Sep 1851 Saint Pancras has mothers name Shay

[Milliepede]

Its hannah Crawley that i am interested in,
she married a waters, that is something i have found out

Marriage in Portsea Island Mar 1871?

1881 has Hannah age 29 born Marylebone and there are 5 children

Possible remarriage for Herbert Waters in 1897

[philrmoon]

Hi

How about this scenario

Ann was possibly a Crawley from another marriage or when she was born a Crawley

So ann Married a different Crawley  so would show as a Crawley when she married john as shown in 1861 but would show as the name she was actually born with on any children born as the mothers birth surname

I hope this sounds clear

Best wishes Phil

[Milliepede]

Have you found a Crawley/Crawley marriage or Crawley/Crawley children births?

Do we know if they had older children born elsewhere, married in Ireland perhaps.

But yes it is possible to have the same combination of surnames.