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Offline grahamila

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Charles Simson
« on: Sunday 02 May 21 20:05 BST (UK) »
I am researching the above man who was serving in the NZEF and died of wounds on 4 July 1917.  His service papers give 2 dates of birth, 22 February 1884 and 8 April 1887.  I have tried to find out when his birth was registered but cannot find it.  He had a middle name of Macaffer and his father was Ian Simson Simson and his mother was possibly Margaret.

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Re: Charles Simson
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 02 May 21 21:07 BST (UK) »
Hi,do you know where he was born?

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Re: Charles Simson
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 02 May 21 21:13 BST (UK) »
Hi Janette,

His Attestation Papers, says he was born in Gore 22 Feb 1884.


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Re: Charles Simson
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 02 May 21 21:23 BST (UK) »
Hello
On NZ BMD I see a 18th September 1886 marriage between Ian Simson and Margaret Macaffer. This might suggest a 1887 birth date for Charles. I cannot find a birth for Charles on the NZ DIA site.
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Re: Charles Simson
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 02 May 21 21:33 BST (UK) »

I cannot find a birth for Charles on the NZ DIA site.
Valsgirl

The other possibility, that we have sometimes found when this happens, is that, the surname is often spelt wrong.  I am not suggesting that this is the case, but need to think outside the square.

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Re: Charles Simson
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 02 May 21 21:49 BST (UK) »
Even the Centopah records state "two birth dates recorded on service record".  Suggesting an 1884 birth at death.


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Re: Charles Simson
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Re: Charles Simson
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 02 May 21 22:03 BST (UK) »
Is there a clue here?

Birth:
1883/9412   Macaffer   Charles Thomson   Margaret   John


22.2.1883 [actual date of birth]

Remarriage?
1886/2505   Margaret   Macaffer   Ian Simson   Simson

Added:

Death:
1885/5194   Macaffer   John Harkness   34Y


Minniehaha.
HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Charles Simson
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 02 May 21 22:05 BST (UK) »
Hi grahamila

Very possibly this birth >

NZ BDM (online)

1883 - MCAFFER - Charles Thomson

Parents :   Margaret and John
Date of Birth deduced from this online listing is >  22 February 1883


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