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Offline Rufous Treecreeper

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Help with a convict documents please
« on: Tuesday 11 May 21 03:57 BST (UK) »
Hoping for some help with Byron Young's convict records, please.  He arrived in Van Diemen's Land in August 1843 on the 'Cressy'.
His indent record has quite a bit of extra information.  I have been able to work out a lot of it but need some help for the crucial parts!

1st box is under the heading of 'Surgeon's Report' and says 'most indefatigable as a schoolmaster on Board - Patient perservering very successful'
2nd box 'Trade' has 'Clerk - at a merchantile house to Mr Moses Benjamin'
3rd box 'Native Place' has 'I was educated at New York & kept a school there - I then *  N___r_[?]'
4th box 'Remarks' has '20th regt 5 or 6 mos.  I volunteered from the 83rd Regt in which I was 6 mos.  Aunt Maria Young - - I So___[?]  *I went to demarara about 5 yrs ago to obtain a situation - I got with Mr Moses Benjamin the American Concul.'

Can anyone read what the missing words are in the Native Place box and the Remarks box?  The fact that he's done all those jobs and he's only listed as 23 years old I find of interest too.

I have also attached a part of his description list where it looks to me like his Native Place is 'Co of Down'.  Do others agree?

Thank you,
Marlene
Best (Sussex/Australia)
Brown (Kent/Australia)
Milbourne (Australia)
Orr (Renfrew/Fife/Australia)
Livingstone, Bryson, Hutton (Hamilton, Lanark)

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Re: Help with a convict documents please
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 11 May 21 04:46 BST (UK) »
A few early thoughts:

The large word in box 3 is:  Newry

This fits with:  Co of Down

MB is the American Consul.

I don't think he kept a school - the tall letter is too early in the word - but I'm not sure what it is.

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See here for Moses Benjamin:    http://www.rootschat.com/links/01qm1/

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Re: Help with a convict documents please
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 11 May 21 05:54 BST (UK) »
There is an asterisk 'thing' * after I kept a ????? Licoil/local/ there* and then I went to demarara about 5 yrs ago to obtain a situation - I got with Mr Moses Benjamin the American Consul.'

Demarara is in the present day Guyana. 

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Re: Help with a convict documents please
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 11 May 21 05:59 BST (UK) »
I think it may be:  Aunt:  Maria Young & some C-

That is:  ...& some C[ousins] (whose names aren't worth my time to record here)

I found this relating to British Guyana:   https://gbggs.org/

Credit to Rootschat member Nettie in a post from 2014.


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Re: Help with a convict documents please
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 11 May 21 07:15 BST (UK) »
I can't help wondering whether school has simply been written wrong, i.e. as shcool.

In the Demarara bit it says obatain, not obtain. So maybe whoever was writing it had a few problems with spelling/letter order.  :)

I've just noticed that you say he was 23 years old. That is really quite an amazing CV for someone of that age...  ;)
McDonald MacDonald M'Donald McGregor MacGregor M'Gregor Twilley Wells Fentiman Carrington Rowe Needham Mitchell Mackie Collingwood Fuller Maides Shilton Hagon Budd

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Re: Help with a convict documents please
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 12 May 21 03:44 BST (UK) »
Thank you one and all your help is much appreciated. 

I see the spelling mistakes now - funny how the eye sees what it expects.  He was a schoolmaster later on so I read 'school'.  As Karen pointed out though, I think it is most likely, along with the 'obatain', a spelling mistake made by the recorder.  Thanks Karen

The 'some C' for some cousins sounds right too, thank you horselydown86 and for the Newry, Ireland information.  I've just found another record (UK prison record on Ancestry) that says under Native Place: Newry, Ireland.  (It also says he has an Uncle Wm Lee in Leeds Yorkshire.)

Also thanks shanreagh for the Demarara location - I'd been labouring under the assumption it was in the Bahamas area... ::)

Marlene
Best (Sussex/Australia)
Brown (Kent/Australia)
Milbourne (Australia)
Orr (Renfrew/Fife/Australia)
Livingstone, Bryson, Hutton (Hamilton, Lanark)

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Re: Help with a convict documents please
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 12 May 21 09:37 BST (UK) »
Moses Benjamin was indeed the US Consul in British Guiana
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