Lillian Lingwood Grainger 1891 - 1965 Newcastle

[Schoch]

This lady was born to Margaret Ellen Grainger 1865 - 1916 (no father listed on Birth Cert).
The mother went on to marry Peter Laidler in 1902.

Lillian later married William Pierce  1891 - Unk, in 1913 in Gateshead. On her wedding cert. her "father" is given as Edward Grainger.

No record has been found for an earlier marriage for her  mother Margaret, least of all to Edward.

So the mystery is who is Lillian's father.


Any help would be most appreciated.

Richard

[Milliepede]

Will be very difficult to find out if he isn't named on the birth certificate but Lingwood is an unusual middle name - sometimes the father's name was secreted in there somewhere unless it was a family name with the mother.

Likely she made up a man called Edward Grainger and he doesn't exist - what occupation was there for him? 

What was Margaret's father called as sometimes grandfathers names were given if they were the "father figure" in the household. 

[Milliepede]

There's an Edward James Lingwood born 1865 Norfolk living in Newcastle 1901 who was a forgeman.

In 1891 he is with mother and siblings in Gateshead.

Not pinning it on him but would be interesting if his occupation matched Edward Grainger.

[Schoch]

Lingwood does not appear in any other family member, before Lillian or after her.  Like you I think her middle name might be a clue as to who her father was.
I will check the marriage cert to see if an occupation is given for Edward (fingers crossed), but as you implied a name match does not mean a relationship match as well.

Thanks for the input.

Richard

[River Tyne Lass]

Tyne and Wear Archives holds the Newcastle Union Bastardy registers & orders 1844-1961.
Although the archives is not open at this time they are accepting enquiries and paid research.
No guarantees that your ancestor might be recorded but it might be one line of enquiry worth considering now or at some point in the future.
Good luck with your research.

[ColC]

GRAINGER, MARGARET  ELLEN     ROUTLEDGE 
GRO Reference: 1865  J Quarter in NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE  Volume 10B  Page 29

GRAINGER, JOSEPH       ROUTLEDGE 
GRO Reference: 1853  D Quarter in WIGTON  Volume 10B  Page 354

In 1891 Margaret is with her parents Joseph & Charlotte, they were both from Wigton, Cumberland where their older children were born. I cannot see a marriage for them.
1901 Margaret is with her mother & Lily.


GRAINGER, LILIAN  LINGWOOD     - 
GRO Reference: 1891  J Quarter in NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE  Volume 10B  Page 107


Margaret Ellen Grainger married Pater Laidler Q1/1902 Gateshead

If she used her maiden name for the marriage to Peter I looks unlikely that she was married before.

Colin

[Schoch]

Thank you RTL.  Will look at it if nothing else turns up.

Thanks Colin.  I have all the details of Lily's Mother and her siblings. Margarets parents Joseph/Charlotte were living in Wigton but moved to Newcastle between 1851 and 1861, where the rest of the children were born.  No issues there.
In 1891 they were all in Newcastle. I assume the 1891 census was taken after the birth of Lilly in April that year, otherwise her birth would have been on the record then.  I have even checked other families in the area for the name Lingwood (nothing).
The strongest lead yet is from Milliepede with Edward James Lingwood. But only by default as there does not appear to be anyone else close at this time.

Thanks

Richard

[River Tyne Lass]

I can't get the FamilySearch link to work but it seems that Lilian went to Canada in October 1901.  Could she have been sent there via the workhouse?  The archives have records relating to this as well.  Creed register may have more info.
Could you supply more info such as addresses where Lilian was born/grew up?  This might possibly help someone help further.
A Church baptism may name a Father.  A school admittance record may also possibly name a Father.

[Schoch]

Hi RTL,
She was born in Newcastle 1891.  In 1901 she was still there in the Westgate area. In 1911 she is in Gateshead on Wylam St. Her occupation is listed as working in a Leather Factory.
Lilly married in 1913,again in Gateshead.

Don't think she went to Canada in 1901, but if she did she was back by 1911.   I will check that further though just  in case.

Thanks

Richard