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Help please re War Gratuity
« on: Saturday 22 May 21 21:22 BST (UK) »
Assuming this W T Bibby is same as King's Labour Force Death in Oswestry Hospital Widow Winifred but no War Gratuity awarded why ?




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Re: Help please re War Gratuity
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 22 May 21 23:50 BST (UK) »
Can’t help with original query but the 11th East Lancs were almost wiped out in the first day of The Battle of The Somme ,The Accrington Pals.
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Re: Help please re War Gratuity
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 23 May 21 00:58 BST (UK) »
The downloads are very fuzzy and hard to read aren't they, which means it's difficult to work out whether the gratuity has been worked out correctly.

Here's what they or the next of kin received:-

The war gratuity was introduced in December 1918 as a payment to be made to those men who had served in WW1 for a period of 6 months or more home service or for any length of service if a man had served overseas. The rules governing the gratuity were implemented under Army Order 17 of 1919.   So, following the armistice, each soldier, or his next-of-kin, was due a war gratuity, the size of which reflected his time served and rank achieved.
Aberdeen: Findlay-Shirras,McCarthy: MidLothian: Mason,Telford,Darling,Cruikshanks,Bennett,Sime, Bell: Lanarks:Crum, Brown, MacKenzie,Cameron, Glen, Millar; Ross: Urray:Mackenzie:  Moray: Findlay; Marshall/Marischell: Perthshire: Brown Ferguson: Wales: McCarthy, Thomas: England: Almond, Askin, Dodson, Well(es). Harrison, Maw, McCarthy, Munford, Pye, Shearing, Smith, Smythe, Speight, Strike, Wallis/Wallace, Ward, Wells;Germany: Flamme,Ehlers, Bielstein, Germer, Mohlm, Reupke

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Re: Help please re War Gratuity
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 23 May 21 09:43 BST (UK) »
Not sure why you are connecting these two soldiers. The top image is 201601 East Lancs Regiment, the bottom one is 79651 Kings(Liverpool) Regiment, 28 Labour Company, Labour Corps.

201601 served overseas and appears to have survived the war.

79651 did not serve overseas. He died in hospital in the UK. He was a resident of Blackburn and left a widow Winifred and children Arthur, Thomas, Ada, and Leonard.

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Re: Help please re War Gratuity
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 23 May 21 10:29 BST (UK) »
Thanks ShaunJ for agreeing my first find in this case that he didn't serve abroad and died in Oswestry Hospital perhaps after serving less than 6 months therefore no entitlement to War Gratuity for his Widow
Some Ancestry Relative of his found East Lancs Medal Card and that threw down the wrong path to that Service Card which on reflection if it was the same King's Labour Corps soldier would have included that Service number as well.
So agreed not the same bloke.
Thanks everyone for your Time and Input
Think we have finally cracked it.
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