George Union born ca 1841 in Watchet

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I'm interested in finding out who the George Union on the 1851 census in Bridgwater is.

Piece: 1925 Folio: 58 Page Number: 41

He is listed as son of the head of the household, who is my ancestor Joseph Union, listed aged 67, occupation pilot, born Watchet, Somerset.
The three youngest children in the household are Joseph's children from his second wife Ann (born Willcox). They married on 30th October 1843 in Bridgwater but Ann died on 8th June 1850 in Bridgwater and was buried there on the 12th.
On 22nd September 1850, Joseph remarried Sarah Hill, a widow, daughter of John Rich. She is his wife on the 1851 census.

I'm wondering whether the George Union aged 10 was even Joseph's child, or Sarah's or Ann's...or even one of Joseph's daughters? Not sure where to begin.

Any ideas?

All the best
Andy 

[Girl Guide]

They seem to be a very elusive family 

I can't find Joseph in the 1841 with a birth year of 1784.  For the 1861 census I can only find Sarah (stated as being married) and Jane, Piece No. 1624 Folio 111 Page 17.  Eliza is a servant in the household of the Creedy family, Piece No. 1624, Folio 110, Page 16.

I cannot find any of the men in 1861, no Joseph, George or John.  I cannot find any likely looking deaths for any of the three men between 1851 and 1861.

I cannot find any christening record for George at all in Somerset that would fit his birth year.  The men seem to vanish into thin air after 1851.

There may be a Rootschatter who has better access to Somerset records who may be able to find something regarding the menfolk.

You certainly have a tough nut here with this family 

[ColC]

May overlap with previous post?

I wonder if this is George and the age in 1851 is wrong?

George UNION   Baptism   24 Oct 1824   Somerset   Bridgwater : St Mary : Parish Register

Earlier George baptised 29 Dec 1816 burial 11 Dec 1818

Plus : Twins Edwin & Emma 21 Oct 1819, William 28 Apr 1822

Emma UNION   Burial   14 Nov 1819   Somerset   Bridgwater : St Mary : Parish Register

Parents on all noted as Joseph a Mariner & Ann  abode Bridgewater

1841 Union Street, Bridgwater
UNION   Joseph   M   35   Miner   SOM   
UNION   Ann   F   57      SOM   
UNION   Mary   F   25            SOM         (Mary Ann? Baptism 28 Jan 1814)   
UNION   Emma   F   3   SOM   
UNION   Joseph   M   15   SOM                 (Baptism 30 Jun 1811)   

Colin

[Girl Guide]

It did cross my mind to wonder if George's age was wrong.  The image for 1851 does say age 10, but it is possible that his age was misheard by the enumerator.

That 1841 you've found Col suggests that Joseph's occupation has been misread. Possibly meant to have been mariner? The 1851 says he is a pilot.

[ColC]

Just to clarify, George is noted as SON age 10 on family search & Freecen. However I do not now think he was the one born 1824, I think this is him below. He is nw married and a Sailor.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGG2-2MN

Joseph is noted as age 35 a miner on the above mentioned census returns.

I think the original may show 55 a mariner. It would be could if someone could confirm both the original returns fro Bridgewater, Somerset.

Colin

[ColC]

Sorry Girl Guide but it looks like we agree. Still the problem with the 10 year old George though.

Colin

[Girl Guide]

I did look at the original of the 1841 you found and to me Joseph's age is 35 and Ann is 57 which puts her birth year as 1784.  His occupation does look like Miner although there is a black mark through the middle of the word 

The children's ages are as you stated.

[ColC]

May be the 1841 is not the family?

UNION, ANN       39  death
GRO Reference: 1850  J Quarter in BRIDGWATER UNION  Volume 10  Page 269

Colin

[Girl Guide]

I'm dubious as to whether that was the right family in 1841.  Ann's age at death gives a birth year of 1811 depending on how accurate that age is.

Added: They may not even be on the 1841 at all.  There are records which are very faint to the point of being unreadable, so the family could have been one of those.