Author Topic: Marriages: flynn and kirk. flynn and donnelly. where to find children  (Read 740 times)

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Trying a new lead and looking for children from marriages of John Joseph Flynn [son of James flynn and Susan Casey, Primrose hill armagh]

First marriage 13/6/1924 Kate Kirk, father Thomas Kirk  [Crosmaglen possibly, cant read the writing on the certificate] Assume Kate died before 1936 but cant find the record.

Second marriage 5/9/1936 Brigid Donnelly, father Dominic Donnelly [Gas Lane, Armagh]

Any ideas?

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Re: Marriages: flynn and kirk. flynn and donnelly. where to find children
« Reply #1 on: Monday 31 May 21 14:49 BST (UK) »
Both marriage dates are too late for any possible children to appear on Irish Genealogy or in GRONI's database (births less than 100 years will not be shown). Additionally, any possible children might still be alive.
Have you looked for Wills for John & both wives? death certificates for John & Brigid (in case a child is informant)?
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: Marriages: flynn and kirk. flynn and donnelly. where to find children
« Reply #2 on: Monday 31 May 21 20:25 BST (UK) »
Was sort of expecting that. Cant find any wills so far but its such a common name and i am not certain where they lived.

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Re: Marriages: flynn and kirk. flynn and donnelly. where to find children
« Reply #3 on: Monday 31 May 21 20:54 BST (UK) »

 Assume Kate died before 1936 but cant find the record.


I see a death on GRONI for a Kathleen Flynn 15.5.1933, aged 36,  registered in Armagh. Might be worth looking at.
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Re: Marriages: flynn and kirk. flynn and donnelly. where to find children
« Reply #4 on: Monday 31 May 21 20:55 BST (UK) »
Thanks

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Re: Marriages: flynn and kirk. flynn and donnelly. where to find children
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 02 June 21 09:12 BST (UK) »
Checked this and Kathleen Flynn appears to be Kate as the witness was Susan Flynn of Primrose Hill. Susan was John's Mother. Its a start.

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Re: Marriages: flynn and kirk. flynn and donnelly. where to find children
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 02 June 21 10:55 BST (UK) »
GRONI in Belfast is the only repository for birth, death and marriage records in what is now Northern Ireland, from 1.1.1922 onwards. (Ancestry and other websites don’t generally have them).

Births in Northern Ireland within the past 100 years, marriages within the past 75 and deaths within the past 50 aren’t searchable on-line. They are open to the public, just not on-line. If you know all the key details eg exact date and place of birth, parents names etc, you can order a copy of a certificate from GRONI for £15 (sterling). https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk

But if you don’t have all the information, and can't go in person, you need to get in touch with them to get a search done.  They will do a 5 year search for £7 and if they find a matching certificate you can purchase it for £8, coming to a total of £15. It will be posted to you a few days later. You pay over the phone using a credit card. You type your number in on the phone keypad. They don’t know what it is.  They won’t deal with these searches and orders by e-mail or post because they need you to type the credit card number in yourself.

Phone: 0300 200 7890 (+44 300 200 7890 from outside the UK)

Alternatively if you live near Belfast, you can go in person to GRONI, by appointment. It is currently the only place where you can search recent records yourself, right up to those registered yesterday. You can view each cert there for £2.50, and if you want a certified copy it’s an extra £8. (Posted out in 2 to 3 weeks time).


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Re: Marriages: flynn and kirk. flynn and donnelly. where to find children
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 02 June 21 12:50 BST (UK) »
Thanks thats good information for the future, plan to visit at some stage.