Elizabeth Chance nee Gardiner

[mjwatts1960]

Dear Galium

I already checked this website and found no mention of their marriage but according to one of your earlier messages according to their marriage license allegation dated sept 15 1748 they were to be married in St. Mary de Crypt in Gloucester which would have occurred later in the autumn 1748 or  spring 1749.

[Galium]

Not exactly sure what you are asking.  The marriage licence allegation transcript most definitely is on the Forest of Dean database.  It can also be found in the Gloucestershire archives online catalogue:
https://gloucestershire.epexio.com/records/GDR/17/3/51/106

I have found that marriages by licence usually took place within a week of the licence being issued, sometimes even on the same day.  Although the allegation names the church where the marriage is expected to take place (occasionally alternatives are given),  sometimes the couple actually marry elsewhere.
I have just checked the register for St Mary de Crypt - which unfortuately shows no marriages at all for September 1748.
So, perhaps they married in a different place.     Perhaps they married at St Mary de Crypt and for some reason the clerk neglected to record it in the register.
Or perhaps Christopher Gardiner and Elizabeth Pool didn't marry at all, and Christopher married a different Elizabeth at some point between getting the licence and baptising his first child at Minchinhampton on 4 September 1749 (I don't know why Ancestry has indexed this baptism as 4 September 1748: the register clearly reads 1749).

[mjwatts1960]

 Dear Galium

My apologies for not making it clear what I was asking for. When I originally looked in the Forest of Dean website I got distracted looking for the baptism of Christopher in the early 1720s as you had found this record

Christopher GARDINER
christening date: 12 Jan 1725
Monmouth, Gloucestershire, England
Newchurch by Chepstow, Monmouth, England
Father's name: Tho. GARDINER

Newchurch by Chepstow would be considered the Forest of Dean so that is why I was looking for that record in that place. I never considered that the city of Gloucester was part of the Forest of Dean so assumed the marriage allegation was in a different place.
I think it likely they changed their marriage plans and married in a different place and more unlikely and very coincidental that they didnt marry and between 15 Sept 1748 and 4 Sept 1749 they separated and he just happened to meet and marry another Elizabeth.
In 1742 you found the record of Christopher Gardiner son of Thomas being apprenticed to Daniel Burcombe attorney of Chipping Sodbury. Maybe by 1748 1749 he was finishing his apprenticeship and had found employment somewhere else.
I need to find out more about Thomas Gardiner his father. Is there evidence of other children born in Newchurch by Chepstow to Thomas. Is there a record of his wife's name? Was he an attorney as well? What clues should I be looking for to identify the correct Thomas Gardiner which was a quite a common name ?
Is it becoming more intriguing and I inherited from my father and from his father's aunt an heirloom of a minature brass of William Gardiner 1606 to 1632 as well as a photo of his portrait but I cant see how to insert the image here.
Thank you so much for all your help and advice.
Matt

[mjwatts1960]

Dear Galium

As a follow up. How can I be sure that the Christopher son of Thomas who was baptised in Jan 1725 is the same Christopher son Thomas who was apprenticed in Chipping Sodbury to Daniel Burcombe in 1742? He would have been only 17 which seems very young to become an apprentice attorney. Can you send me the link shows me the record of this apprenticeship or did you already do this and is Christopher's age given in this record?

Thank you so much.

Matt

[mjwatts1960]

Dear Galium

Have found the record of Christopher Gardiner son Thomas in UK, Register of Duties Paid for Apprentices' Indentures, 1710-1811 and saved it to my tree as I have a limited membership to Ancestry.com.
Thank you for leading me to the information.

Matt