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Re: John Thomson b 1868 Barnhill Poorhouse Springburn Glasgow
« Reply #72 on: Thursday 17 June 21 15:11 BST (UK) »
Yes it does fit. Would there have been a inquest ?
No.

There is no such procedure as an inquest in Scotland.

If there was any reason to think the death was not due to natural causes there would have been a report to the Procurator Fiscal*, who would have decided whether any further investigation was necessary.

*There are no coroners in Scotland either, by the way.
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Re: John Thomson b 1868 Barnhill Poorhouse Springburn Glasgow
« Reply #74 on: Thursday 17 June 21 16:36 BST (UK) »
Hi Forfarian,
Sorry I did not  now there were no coroners  or Inquests in Scotland, I did say I knew very little about how these things work in Scotland. Thans fo enlightening me.
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Jones, Reece, Granger, Treherne, Worrall Ward, Weeks, Morrey,Thomas, Owen, Dorsett, Hinton all started out in Shropshire

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Re: John Thomson b 1868 Barnhill Poorhouse Springburn Glasgow
« Reply #75 on: Thursday 17 June 21 17:21 BST (UK) »
Hi Forfarian,
Sorry I did not  now there were no coroners  or Inquests in Scotland, I did say I knew very little about how these things work in Scotland. Thans fo enlightening me.
Di
No need for apology - I just didn't want you going looking for something that doesn't exist :)

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Re: John Thomson b 1868 Barnhill Poorhouse Springburn Glasgow
« Reply #76 on: Thursday 17 June 21 19:04 BST (UK) »
You get the feeling that the marriage for John and Charlotte may not have gone so well...

If that is John Thomson's death that Sancti has found (and there will not be any way really to confirm) then it looks like Charlotte and John may not have lived together by then.

Re the family entry for 1901, I struggle to find it so far. With son John being born on 9 April at the address her brother Samuel is to be found on 1st April 1901 for his family's 1901 entry, Charlotte at least looks to be in Glasgow. Whether there were any living children at this time is hard to guess without finding her entry.

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Re: John Thomson b 1868 Barnhill Poorhouse Springburn Glasgow
« Reply #77 on: Thursday 17 June 21 19:11 BST (UK) »
Ok,
 I have checked and printed of the right certs for John and Mary Ann Black and there daughter.


What did Mary Ann Black died from? She was so young at death and not long after she gave birth to daughter  :-\

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Re: John Thomson b 1868 Barnhill Poorhouse Springburn Glasgow
« Reply #78 on: Thursday 17 June 21 19:58 BST (UK) »
She died from Pelvic Cellulitis a month after her daughter was born.
pelvic cellulitis. bacterial infection of the parametrium, occurring after childbirth or spontaneous or therapeutic abortion. It represents an extension of infection via the blood vessels and lymphatics from a primary wound infection in the external genitalia, perineum, vagina, cervix, or uterus.
Poor girl must have been in agony.

She died in the poorhouse her home address was (would you believe) 79 Whitevale Street
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Re: John Thomson b 1868 Barnhill Poorhouse Springburn Glasgow
« Reply #79 on: Thursday 17 June 21 21:36 BST (UK) »
Poor thing  :-\

They must have living with John's mum, Bridget Thomson, at that address. Certainly where Bridget shows in 1891 with her granddaughter Mary Ann.

Can't easily find Bridget and Mary Ann in the 1901 census so far either.

Bridget's death is also hard to find. Unfortunately, Sancti, it is not the death that you thought it could be from 1908 in Calton. Nothing else really coming up to fit on SP.

Monica

Added: This looks to be a family tree on a/try for Bridget Thomson www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/108869812/person/200069204348/facts
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Re: John Thomson b 1868 Barnhill Poorhouse Springburn Glasgow
« Reply #80 on: Thursday 17 June 21 22:34 BST (UK) »
I have been looking all evening for Bridget and Mary Ann  but cannot find them
Where were Bridget and Mary Ann Living in 1891? have you got her on any other Census.
i did find a Bridget  aged 70 and Mary Ann 39 living in Dundee,
It's not them as it states Mary Ann born Dundee 1911 Census
Fulkes/Fulks/Fulke. Yates, Ashton,Gamage, Jefkins,Lowen, Pooley,Colcock, Bellchambers, all London, Surrey, Sussex Middlesex
Jones, Reece, Granger, Treherne, Worrall Ward, Weeks, Morrey,Thomas, Owen, Dorsett, Hinton all started out in Shropshire