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William Harris Convict - Trial Papers
« on: Thursday 17 June 21 04:09 BST (UK) »
I am hoping to get some advice on how to find and obtain the trial records for my 2xgreat grandfather who was transported to Australia in 1838.
The details I have are -
William Harris
Tried Gloucester City
Lent Assizes
Dates - 10th January 1838 adjourned to 7th March 1838.
Found guilty and sentenced to 10 years transportation.
Came to Australia on board the Lord Lyndoch.

This William Harris not to be confused with the younger William Harris on board the Lord Lyndoch who was given 7 years.
Would be grateful for any assistance given.
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Shakel

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Re: William Harris Convict - Trial Papers
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 17 June 21 06:16 BST (UK) »


What is your source for these details....the trial dates and places?

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Re: William Harris Convict - Trial Papers
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 17 June 21 09:34 BST (UK) »
Not sure if this is your man but there is a William Harris convicted on 23rd? March 1838 of sheep stealing.  Sentenced to 10 years.  His character was described as bad.  Sailed for NSW.

The Results column appears to say Ly 22 Nil.  No idea what that refers to.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: William Harris Convict - Trial Papers
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 17 June 21 09:50 BST (UK) »
There is a travel record for him although it doesn't say much

New South Wales And Tasmania: Settlers And Convicts 1787-1859

The image has:-

1088  William Harris (1)  Lord Lyndoch 3   1838   Gloucester (City) G.S. or G.L.? 7 March 1838  10 yrs

The  last column appears to have the heading - By minute of the Governer.  No heading for any of the other columns.

Have you thought about contacting Gloucester Records Office to see if they have any trial records for William?

Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire


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Re: William Harris Convict - Trial Papers
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 17 June 21 10:29 BST (UK) »
Thank you to all those who have replied so quickly.
Yes, my man is the sheep stealer. Transported to NSW for 10 years.
Most of the information I have came from the documents from the Australian end.
The List Of Convicts on the Lord Lyndoch upon arrival in Sydney listed name, religion, age, married/single, native place, trade, offence, when and where tried, former convictions and physical features.
The ticket of Leave and Certificate of Freedom contained similar information.
I also made an inquiry with volunteers from help@gfhs.org.uk. They were very helpful in supplying information similar to the above.
I have been in contact with the Gloucester Record Office and they put me onto the National Archives. All have been very helpful, however I have had little success in finding the actual trial papers.
It's the trial papers I am hoping to locate so I may be able to purchase and have them sent over.

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Re: William Harris Convict - Trial Papers
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 17 June 21 11:14 BST (UK) »
Not identifying a source for the trial records, but might be useful -

britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk

Gloucestershire Chronicle 17 March 1838
....offence occured at Winchcomb.....property of William Cook.......


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Re: William Harris Convict - Trial Papers
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 17 June 21 11:25 BST (UK) »
Thank you
I will follow that up.