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BLACK born Greenock
« on: Thursday 01 July 21 18:05 BST (UK) »
One of my ancestors, I believe was born in Greenock, in what then was Renfrewshire on 15 September 1842 , the son of John Black and Elizabeth Thompson.
I think I have hime emigrating to America in early 1890's as he appears to get married to ANN P GOODACRE in Sep 1892 in Washington DC.
I have them on the 1900 and 1910 US Census with one son born in Scotland to a first wife and five children to Annie.
Can anyone point me in the direction of any of these children after 1918, when John dies again in Washington DC?  I have looked on FindMyPast only, as I have the subscription.
There may be a number of chidlren of at least one of his sons, a George W Black born about 1903, who married, I think, Agnes Hopkins, born in North Carolina about 1900/1901
Any assistance would be gratefully received
regards
Squirejay
GIBSON- Berwickshire(Coldingham, Edrom) & Northumberland(Berwick-upon-Tweed & Morpeth)
NAPIER in Edinburgh from 1700
ROBSON- Roxburgh(Kelso, Hawick & Jedburgh):~
DODS or DODDS Hawick, Kelso)
ELDERS (Hawick/Borders)
HOPPER- (Greenlaw and area)
KENNEDY- (Roxburghshire, Lillesleaf)
BLACK (Lanarkshire before 1861, Edinburgh after 1861 census )

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Re: BLACK born Greenock
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 01 July 21 18:51 BST (UK) »
I guess this is the person you refer to. Incidentally Greenock is still in Renfrewshire.
Original records below on https://www.rootschat.com

JOHN BLACK   JOHN BLACK/ELIZABETH THOMPSON   Born 15 SEPTEMBER 1842   Baptised 9 OCTOBER 1842   GREENOCK - SIR MICHAEL STREET RELIEF

Brother.
Also    WILLIAM BLACK   Born 4 JANUARY 1845   Baptised 9 FEBRUARY

The only marriage I can find for the names you mention is below, no children born there.
JOHN BLACK   Marriage    ELIZABETH THOMSON   18/07/1837   Currie, Midlothian

I cannot find the family on census returns in Greenock 1851 – 1871.

I note you state that he married in the USA age 50, do you think he was married in Scotland before?

Colin
Clarke, Trickett, Orton, Lawless, Norton, Detheridge, Kirby, Goodfellow, Wagstaff, Lowe, etc.

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Re: BLACK born Greenock
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 01 July 21 19:20 BST (UK) »
The John Black who married in 1892 was John Thomson Black

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Re: BLACK born Greenock
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 01 July 21 19:37 BST (UK) »
Is this possibly the first marriage of John(Thomson) Black.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYMZ-QBV

and possibly a daughter & son born to John & Mary

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2H5-BTB5


https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2H5-B14R

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Re: BLACK born Greenock
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 01 July 21 19:43 BST (UK) »
And another possible son

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQFK-VZN

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Re: BLACK born Greenock
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 01 July 21 20:46 BST (UK) »
Birth of Annie P Goodacre

GOODACRE, ANNIE  PHOEBE     mmn HALSALL 
GRO Reference: 1862  S Quarter in WEST DERBY AND TOXTETH PARK  Volume 08B  Page 387

Probable marriage of parents

Marriages Jun 1860 
Amlot    Thomas        W Derby    8b   590    
Goodacre    John    W Derby    8b   590    
Halsall    Margaret        W Derby    8B   590     S
Walker    Ann                W Derby    8b   590

 

Death of Annie P Black

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK1D-V3WZ

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Re: BLACK born Greenock
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 01 July 21 20:50 BST (UK) »
Obituary for Annie Phoebe, lists some children

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPB8-5SQ2

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Re: BLACK born Greenock
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Re: BLACK born Greenock
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 01 July 21 21:15 BST (UK) »
Death of George W (Whitton) Black

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V9BW-L48

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