Daniel McCarthy - death registration 1860 puzzler?

[River Tyne Lass]

Many thanks Jen for this. 

I have slapped my wrists for jumping the gun Boo  and have now added an update correction - this might help someone.  Still puzzling no death reg at Newcastle. 

I agree, Rena that it is sad that a veteran soldier ended up in the river.  R.I.P. from me too, poor man.  Hopefully at least this post will help someone find out he is at St Andrew's and his cause of death since there seems to be no registration.

Thanks again for help in getting to the bottom of this.

[heywood]

The nearest I can see is this:
Daniel Carly 40yrs
Newcastle upon Tyne 1860 June quarter vol 10b pg 34

I can’t see any other reference to him.

[River Tyne Lass]

Thanks for trying to find him Heywood.
I thought death would have to be registered before burial but perhaps not.
Or could he have had an alias? 
He is not even my ancestor but I can't help wondering about this puzzle and would like to get this info for the St Andrew's Cemetery Find A Grave entry .. perhaps his Family line might be looking for him or might look for him one day.  He may not have a memorial but it will still no doubt be helpful for them to know his final resting place.

[Tickettyboo]

I thought death would have to be registered before burial but perhaps not.
Or could he have had an alias? 

As he was found in the river, there would have been an inquest. The Coroner can give permission for burial prior to the inquest being concluded and the death being officially registered - sometimes marked in burial registers as 'By Coroner's order'.

Boo

[River Tyne Lass]

Thanks Boo for this.
There is no mention of the Coroner in this particular burial entry though. 
Order was given by a John Williams .. perhaps he was the coroner?

[jonw65]

There was an inquest.
Conducted by J T Hoyle at the Dead House
Several reports of the affair in the papers, including inquest report in the Newcastle Daily Chronicle, 22 May 1860

The nearest I can see is this:
Daniel Carly 40yrs
Newcastle upon Tyne 1860 June quarter vol 10b pg 34

I think heywood has found the right one.
Some of the other names with the same GRO ref, 10b 34, are in the north east newspapers, including other inquests, accidents. More than a coincidence?
i.e. Michael Dugan
Newcastle Guardian, 19 May 1860
On Tuesday evening an inquest was held at the Dead House, Newcastle, by J. T. Hoyle, Esq., coroner, on the body of Michael Dugan, which had been found in the Tyne. The body had been identified as that of a labourer named Michael Dugan, about 30 years age.

[Tickettyboo]

Thanks Boo for this.
There is no mention of the Coroner in this particular burial entry though. 
Order was given by a John Williams .. perhaps he was the coroner?

I 'did' say 'sometimes' :-)
I have seen entries that did say it and others (where I know the registration was done was by the coroner 'after' the burial) where there is no mention.

Boo

[jonw65]

Link to cemetery register
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-P3VC-K9S8-D

[jonw65]

One from the Newcastle Courant, 25 May 1860