1911 Census Query

[LizzieL]

CheshireBMD again.

BOULTON   James K   & STOKES   Elizabeth   1906   Runcorn, Civil Marriage or Registrar Attended

Definitely was Elizabeth Stokes then, and not going to be a parish register. She might be difficult to find pre 1906

[LizzieL]

Joseph Help's brother William (also boatman) married an isabella Taylor on 6 Feb 1897 in Ancoats, Manchester. was Alice her much younger sister? Isabella said she was 21 at marriage and her father was James Taylor - boatman.

[footiestuds]

Thanks for all the replies

Kay99 - Is that the marriage at Holy trinity ? where was the record?

LizzieL - I've tried following the relationship of the Boulton couple - got the same marriage as you - but then it all seems to go askew

1901 Tipton Staffordshire 22 Wood Street

H George Roberts M 62 Coal Hewer Tipton
W Elizabeth Roberts S 59 Sedgley
D Alice Stokes S 22 Gen Serv Tipton
D Lizzie Badley S 20 Dressmaker Tipton
S James Badley S 14 App Engine Fitter Tipton
V Fanny Stokes S 31 Cook Dom Sedgley
V Minnie Stokes S 2m Sedgley

George Roberts m Elizabeth Badley 28 Sep 1895 Tipton
George Roberts died Dec 1901 Dudley age 62

1891 Tipton Staffordshire Court 3 House 6 Wood Street
H John Badley M 50 Coal Miner Tipton
W Elizabeth Badley M 47 Tipton
D Anne Badley S 17 Gen Serv Tipton
Step Dau Alice Stokes S 13 Scholar Tipton
D Lizzie Badley 9 Tipton
S James Badley 4 Tipton
V Lizzie Gilley S 16 Dom Serv Tipton
Bro James Badley S 46 Coal Miner Tipton

No marriage record found yet
John Badley died Sep 1893 Dudley age 54

1881 Tipton Staffordshire 1 House 5 Court Wood Street
H Elizabeth Stokes W 37 Sedgley
D Ann Stokes 12 Tipton
D Frances Stokes 7 Tipton
D Alice Stokes 2 Tipton

John William Stokes m Elizabeth Gilley Dec 1871 Dudley

One more lil nugget - Alice Helps (nee Roberts) son b 1909 is Thomas Joseph Stokes Helps

It all ties in but with a lot of variations on age + names !

The (Martha) Alice Taylor who married in 1912 from Vicar Street Father was Joseph Taylor - Waterman. She is listed as Alice Taylor in 1901 Census + Runcorn Schools dob 25 Mar 1894 Father Joseph. I have Martha Alice Taylor birth certificate - same dob, same Fathers name + occupation born Garston Dock Liverpool.
This is the only 1911 I've found that appears to match but not much else does so either I've got it terribly wrong or there's a lot of goings on that I can't quite figure!

Regards
Deb

[Kay99]

Thanks for all the replies

Kay99 - Is that the marriage at Holy trinity ? where was the record

Regards
Deb

The marriage was at Holy Trinity and it is on F M P

Kay

Added - Presumably this is Alice in 1901 with father Joseph and Ellen nee Snape?  https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9KG-7QQ

[footiestuds]

Yes that's her