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Can anyone read this place?
« on: Thursday 29 July 21 08:38 BST (UK) »
Hello,

I have a chap who married in Newcastle in 1820 and then moved around Wallsend, Benwell and Arthur's Hill. I have a place in Northumberland where he is 'Native from' but I can't read it, is there anyone here who can identify it please? See attached. Thanks for reading!

Have a good day,

Dan
Durham: Hall, Wilkinson, Taggart, Woodcock, Watson, Gray, Wood, Cummings, Wheldon, Robinson, Cowley, Perkins, Burnside, Corby
Yorkshire: Petty, Blenkiron, Stabler, Garforth.
Northumberland: Wood, Hall, Wilkinson.
Lincolnshire: Bavin, Cook, Graves/Greaves, Catten
Gloucestershire: Smith, Jones, Wheeler
Ireland: Taggart, Workman.
Warwickshire: Commander, Betts.
Staffordshire/Worcestershire: Perkins, Commander, Plant, Nock, Guest, Hackett

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Re: Can anyone read this place?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 29 July 21 09:54 BST (UK) »
Resized.

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Re: Can anyone read this place?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 29 July 21 09:58 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the resize,

I've been looking over maps current and old but I can't see what it would be, we don't have his baptism so finding it might help find his parents but no luck so far.

Thanks again,

Dan
Durham: Hall, Wilkinson, Taggart, Woodcock, Watson, Gray, Wood, Cummings, Wheldon, Robinson, Cowley, Perkins, Burnside, Corby
Yorkshire: Petty, Blenkiron, Stabler, Garforth.
Northumberland: Wood, Hall, Wilkinson.
Lincolnshire: Bavin, Cook, Graves/Greaves, Catten
Gloucestershire: Smith, Jones, Wheeler
Ireland: Taggart, Workman.
Warwickshire: Commander, Betts.
Staffordshire/Worcestershire: Perkins, Commander, Plant, Nock, Guest, Hackett

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Re: Can anyone read this place?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 29 July 21 10:46 BST (UK) »
Hi Dan,
Do you have him on 1851 Census?

Ist letter looks like a W to me, is that what you think?

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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)


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« Reply #4 on: Thursday 29 July 21 10:49 BST (UK) »
Ok just looked at your other posts so Thomas Wilkinson who was transported I presume.

So wont find him 1851 with pob
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Can anyone read this place?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 29 July 21 10:52 BST (UK) »
Hi yes,

He was transported to Australia in 1836 for stealing a pony, this 'native of' illegible scribble comes from the transportation document. He married at All Saints Newcastle, baptised a son at Newcastle while resident of Bigg's Main near Wallsend then he has a daughter born in Arthur's Hill near Benwell which is our last sighting prior to transportation. on the 1841 census, his wife and kids are in Jarrow, Durham if any of this helps... I thought it looked like Warrenser but no such place of course!

Thanks for your help,

Dan
Durham: Hall, Wilkinson, Taggart, Woodcock, Watson, Gray, Wood, Cummings, Wheldon, Robinson, Cowley, Perkins, Burnside, Corby
Yorkshire: Petty, Blenkiron, Stabler, Garforth.
Northumberland: Wood, Hall, Wilkinson.
Lincolnshire: Bavin, Cook, Graves/Greaves, Catten
Gloucestershire: Smith, Jones, Wheeler
Ireland: Taggart, Workman.
Warwickshire: Commander, Betts.
Staffordshire/Worcestershire: Perkins, Commander, Plant, Nock, Guest, Hackett

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Re: Can anyone read this place?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 29 July 21 11:00 BST (UK) »
Sorry I cant be much help.
Closest I can see is Warrenside, but they are in Sussex and Yorkshire.

Any witnesses om the 1820 Marriage?
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Can anyone read this place?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 29 July 21 11:01 BST (UK) »
What was the document where this place name was written? I am wondering if it was a child’s birth for example, maybe other children’s births will give the same place name.

It looks like
W, M or N - arre (or i) nser

I couldn’t see anything vaguely like it on Genuki.  :-\

Added: you have now answered the question. It’s actually quite legible, though first letter is not obvious - the place name is just not recognisable. Saying the word might help, because it would have been written as heard.

If he died in Australia have you found an obituary for him? Did his wife and children ever join him in Australia?

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Re: Can anyone read this place?
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 29 July 21 11:08 BST (UK) »
Hi,

The witnesses to the marriage were William Wilkinson (could sign his name, Thomas could not) and William Lightfoot.

I have attached the document with the word on it in two parts, the column was for 'Native of' the others on the page had easily extrapolated places from the UK. Another of the transportation documents says he is native of 'near Newcastle'

Sorry I am not being much help, very elusive family, it has taken me over ten years to find the Australia transportation! I have not seen an obituary, I looked on Trove newspapers and nothing definite that I could see.

His wife and children didn't join him, his wife had a few more children to a William Pringle after Thomas left but they don't seem to have married- I am thinking because Thomas was still alive.

Dan
Durham: Hall, Wilkinson, Taggart, Woodcock, Watson, Gray, Wood, Cummings, Wheldon, Robinson, Cowley, Perkins, Burnside, Corby
Yorkshire: Petty, Blenkiron, Stabler, Garforth.
Northumberland: Wood, Hall, Wilkinson.
Lincolnshire: Bavin, Cook, Graves/Greaves, Catten
Gloucestershire: Smith, Jones, Wheeler
Ireland: Taggart, Workman.
Warwickshire: Commander, Betts.
Staffordshire/Worcestershire: Perkins, Commander, Plant, Nock, Guest, Hackett