Loammi William Williams

[Nettie]

Hello all,
I am seeking some help with this gentleman and whether his true origins can be found/confirmed. I have included all the information i have to date


Loammi William Williams
(various spellings on Loammi)

Born: no consistent evidence

Baptised (record from Cornwall OPC Database)
Name: Loammi Williams
Date: 14th Dec 1811, St Just In, Penwith St
Surname: Williams
Father’s forename: not recorded
Mother’s forename: Elizabeth
Notes: Base

Marriage (from marriage certificate)
Name: Laomi William Williams Age 23 (Should be aged 26 based on baptism)
Father ‘long dead’, (if William Williams was thought to be his father, he passed in 1844, therefore after the marriage. Perhaps Loammi knew details of his paternity)
Residence: Newlyn, Cornwall
Date: 16th July 1837  Church of Paul, Cornwall
Bride: Rebecca Davy  Age 22 (1817-1903)

Children:
William Davy Williams 1838-1925 Born Cornwall
Henry Vine Williams 1841-1917 Born Cornwall
John Davey Williams 1842-1925 Born Cornwall
Elizabeth Davey Williams 1843-1869 Born Cornwall
Rebecca Williams 1845-1925 Born Cornwall
Mary Ann Williams 1847-1920 Born South Australia
Emily Florence Williams 1854 – 1913 Born Victoria
James Ernest Williams 1857-1932 Born Victoria
Annie Williams 1860-1861 Born Victoria
Died: 1870 Ranters Gully, Castlemaine, Victoria  as per Coroner’s Report

Many online trees have him as the youngest of 12 children to William Williams (1768-1844) and Elizabeth Giles (1771-May 1811) most key records indicate St Keverne, Cornwall. However, mother Elizabeth died in May 1811 and Loammi was baptised Dec 1811, with notes saying BASE

Interestingly, Martha Williams, often listed as the 11th child, baptism record is also from 1811
Date: 20th Oct 1811, St Just In, Penwith St
Surname: Williams
Father’s forename: WILLIAM
Mother’s forename: Elizabeth
However, with mother Elizabeth dying in May 1811, is this a delayed baptism or the child of yet another mother?

If he is attached to the correct family, there are older sisters who may have been Loammi’s mother, however, the sister whose name is Elizabeth would have been too young.

Any help, pointers, fresh eyes, redirections would be appreciated.

[rosie99]

I can only see one other baptism for surname Williams, mother Elizabeth and no father mentioned in that parish around that time.

06-Apr 1806
Just in Penwith, St.
Mary WILLIAMS
Mother    Elizabeth
Notes   base child

Have you looked for any bastardy orders and have you located Elizabeth in 1841/51. 

[Nettie]

Hi Rosie,
Nothing found in the Bastardy Orders.
With the census, I did look but with nothing to corroborate age and not knowing if she later married, it’s proving difficult to narrow down.

[Nettie]

Just to add,
I did find another Loammi Williams - also base born.  Mother Mary.
Baptism: 9 Sep 1804 in the Parish of St Erth.

However, I believe it may be for the Loammi Williams
Died 11 Jan 1817  Aged 12 in Perranuthnoe

[rosie99]

I am afraid that I have not had the time to look at this further but I will have another look when I am back on here for a bit longer. 

I think that you should ignore that William Williams / Elizabeth Giles family trees and not try to fit your family in with them.  I see there is a note posted alongside one of them that says there is no father listed on Laommi's death certificate.

[Nettie]

Thanks for your help, Rosie - I appreciate it.
I was hoping with a name like Loammi being unusual that I'd have better luck - but that's not the case. 

I don't have his death cert, as I got the circumstances of his death from the Coroner's Report.  However, his marriage cert had 'long dead' in the father's name box.