Richard Northway / Edward Walters

[davidwgrobinson]

Have you considered buying a copy of the 1892 marriage cert?   It may give some additional info but no guarantees

possibly, I'll wait and see if anymore of my family research comes up for Bourne and then I'll make a trip to their archives to see if I can access them, it's cheaper in the long run.

This is the strangest person I've come across, I thought for a long time there were 2 marriages, but then noticed the length on the 1911 certificate.

It's the missus's family as well, so I've only just started researching properly.

[DCB]

You may have seen this, but there is a baptism for Rose Ellen Northway on 27th June 1894 in Ampthill, Bedfordshire, daughter of Richard and Lizzie.

David

[wivenhoe]

You are researching the origins of this woman?

".. I have their daughter named Alice Louisa Northway Walters, on the Marriage Register, in 1819 the father is Edward Richard Northway Walters."

Who did Alice Louisa Northway WALTERS marry...when and where?

[davidwgrobinson]

You are researching the origins of this woman?

".. I have their daughter named Alice Louisa Northway Walters, on the Marriage Register, in 1819 the father is Edward Richard Northway Walters."

Who did Alice Louisa Northway WALTERS marry...when and where?

No I'm researching Edward Richard Northway Walters.

He was just just Richard Northway when he married,  then Edward Walters on the Census.   I've pretty much decided he just added the Edward Walters to his name, I just don't know why.

[wivenhoe]

Alice Louisa Northway WALTERS....who did she marry?...when?...where?

What occupation for father?  Any residential addresses to see on the document?

What names for witnesses?. How old is Alice Louisa?

[wivenhoe]

GRO births
NORTHWAY, Rose Ellen    mms.     BARWELL 
1892  DecQ  Bourn   Vol 07A  Page 347

NORTHWAY, ALICE  LOUISA     BARWELL 
1900  JunQ  Worksop  Vol 07B  Page 53

NORTHWAY, Ada Elizabeth   mms.   BARWELL 
1901  JunQ  Chesterfield  Vol 07B  Page 811

NORTHWAY, William Charles   mms.   BARWELL 
1902  DecQ  Chesterfield Vol 07B  Page 809

[Br1gau]

Hi,

Just to add to the confusion, in 1919 he was Herbert Edward Richard Northway Walters. Belper News 6 June 1919

I can’t upload the article right now for some reason.  Briefly it states that Charles Henry Herbert Law, a steelworker from Barnsley, using the name of “Clifford Herbert Henry Law” bigamously married Alice Louisa Northway Waters of 59 Oxford street, Barnsley on 11th February 1919 at Clowne Parish Church.  Mr. Law was the father of Alice’s child, born 11th May.  Herbert Edward Richard Northway Walters, general dealer of 264 Cresswell Road, Clowne, deposed to being present at the marriage in Clowne. 

Defendant said he had been in the Army 4 ½ years and complained that his home and children were neglected.  He was continually being reproached for carrying on with other women while he was in the Army, which made him indifferent as to what he did.  Defendant was committed for trial.

Mr Law’s legal wife was named Ada.

added:

Excuse for Bigamy with Sheffield Girl

“My wife drove me to it,” pleaded Herbert Law, steel worker of Stanton, admitting bigamy at Derby assises today.

Mr Cracroft, prosecuting, said within eight days of prisoner ordering his wife from home he married a Sheffield girl, Alice Louisa Northway Walters.  Prisoner represented he was single at the time.  Prisoner said his first marriage was unhappy.  He was sentenced to three months’ imprisonment.
Sheffield Evening Telegraph 1 July 1919

[davidwgrobinson]

Hi,

Just to add to the confusion, in 1919 he was Herbert Edward Richard Northway Walters. Belper News 6 June 1919

I can’t upload the article right now for some reason.  Briefly it states that Charles Henry Herbert Law, a steelworker from Barnsley, using the name of “Clifford Herbert Henry Law” bigamously married Alice Louisa Northway Waters of 59 Oxford street, Barnsley on 11th February 1919 at Clowne Parish Church.  Mr. Law was the father of Alice’s child, born 11th May.  Herbert Edward Richard Northway Walters, general dealer of 254 Creswell Road, Clowne, deposed to being present at the marriage in Clowne. 

Defendant said he had been in the Army 4 ½ years and complained that his home and children were neglected.  He was continually being reproached for carrying on with other women while he was in the Army, which made him indifferent as to what he did.  Defendant was committed for trial.

Mr Law’s legal wife was named Ada.

added:

Excuse for Bigamy with Sheffield Girl

“My wife drove me to it,” pleaded Herbert Law, steel worker of Stanton, admitting bigamy at Derby assises today.

Mr Cracroft, prosecuting, said within eight days of prisoner ordering his wife from home he married a Sheffield girl, Alice Louisa Northway Walters.  Prisoner represented he was single at the time.  Prisoner said his first marriage was unhappy.  He was sentenced to three months’ imprisonment.
Sheffield Evening Telegraph 1 July 1919

That is really interesting.  I didn't know about the bigamy charge, I knew he was previously married to Ada Parkes.

He is the first one I know to be charged, there are lots in my tree who claim to be Widowed before marrying someone else, and they aren't.

Is there a site that tracks divorces for the 1850-1920's?   I would love to be able to go back and check.

The Herbert is new,  At some point when I can get to the church at clowne I'm going to go through their burial book to see if he's there.

[davidwgrobinson]

GRO births
NORTHWAY, Rose Ellen    mms.     BARWELL 
1892  DecQ  Bourn   Vol 07A  Page 347

NORTHWAY, ALICE  LOUISA     BARWELL 
1900  JunQ  Worksop  Vol 07B  Page 53

NORTHWAY, Ada Elizabeth   mms.   BARWELL 
1901  JunQ  Chesterfield  Vol 07B  Page 811

NORTHWAY, William Charles   mms.   BARWELL 
1902  DecQ  Chesterfield Vol 07B  Page 809

Thanks we have those, were looking at her father

Edward Richard Northway Walters