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Re: ETTY SUTCLIFFE, nee ??? brn 1854-55 Mayo Ireland
« Reply #27 on: Monday 06 September 21 17:08 BST (UK) »
Doing a bit of fossicking in Rochdale.

 This may be a red herring.
 St. John the Baptist R.C., Rochdale
Baptism 5 Dec. 1859
John Thomas Kennedy, parents Robert Fenton & Bridget Kennedy
Born 9 Sept. 1859. Godparent Julia McHiver?
Parents marital condition: Not married

More baptisms at St. John the Baptist:
Thomas Fenton 1860, Ellen Fenton 1862, parents John Fenton & Ann (Blinkhorn)
Margaret Fenton 1875, Anna Fenton 1876, parents Samuel Fenton & Catherine (Kelly or Kenny)*
Several Kennedy baptisms 1850s, '60s, '80's, '90's.
Priest wrote addresses of some families.

Confirmations: John Fenton 1882, Margaret Fenton 1886 + several Kennedy through decades. Ages for some.

Marriages:
1874 Samuel Fenton & Catherine Kelly. No father's name for Samuel.
1880 Catherine Fenton to Edward Mills. Bride's father was Kelly. Both witnesses Kelly. Perhaps Samuel's widow marrying again.
1879 John Hynes & Bridget Kennedy. Fathers Thomas Hynes, Thomas Kennedy.
1855 Thomas Sutcliffe & Ellen Kennedy
+ more Kennedy marriages.

St. John the Baptist parish was founded 200 years ago.

Also Kennedy baptisms and marriages at St. Patrick, Rochdale. St. Patrick was a later foundation.
www.lan-opc.org.uk/Rochdale/Rochdale/index.html

Those combinations of surnames may be coincidental. Many families would have been from Mayo. Some of my Mayo surnames (+ my family's friends & neighbours) are in the registers of the 2 Rochdale churches. 
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Re: ETTY SUTCLIFFE, nee ??? brn 1854-55 Mayo Ireland
« Reply #28 on: Monday 06 September 21 17:14 BST (UK) »
Those are interesting Maiden Stone. As you say repeated and popular names but you never know. I saw a couple of those earlier.

Wallace Percy seems an odd choice of first names somehow  :-\

I was confirmed at St John the Baptist  :)
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Re: ETTY SUTCLIFFE, nee ??? brn 1854-55 Mayo Ireland
« Reply #29 on: Monday 06 September 21 18:30 BST (UK) »
Thank you for all the hard work you’ve done Maiden Stone & heywood, not sure if your latest post Maiden Stone throws any light on my search, it’s very confusing, but something will show itself, maybe. .?.?

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Re: ETTY SUTCLIFFE, nee ??? brn 1854-55 Mayo Ireland
« Reply #30 on: Monday 06 September 21 18:39 BST (UK) »
It is confusing. That Rochdale  Kennedy family I saw - I couldn’t find any births  :-\
Best to wait for the certificates and hope that they help!
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Re: ETTY SUTCLIFFE, nee ??? brn 1854-55 Mayo Ireland
« Reply #31 on: Monday 06 September 21 19:09 BST (UK) »
Thank you for all the hard work you’ve done Maiden Stone & heywood, not sure if your latest post Maiden Stone throws any light on my search, it’s very confusing, but something will show itself, maybe. .?.?

They are just to keep in mind in case connections turn up later. They are common surnames. People tended to marry within their own religious and social circle. 
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Re: ETTY SUTCLIFFE, nee ??? brn 1854-55 Mayo Ireland
« Reply #32 on: Monday 06 September 21 19:29 BST (UK) »
Thank you for all the hard work you’ve done Maiden Stone & heywood, not sure if your latest post Maiden Stone throws any light on my search, it’s very confusing, but something will show itself, maybe. .?.?

They are just to keep in mind in case connections turn up later. They are common surnames. People tended to marry within their own religious and social circle.

But Etty didn’t when she married John Sutcliffe which is interesting.  :)
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« Reply #33 on: Monday 06 September 21 20:09 BST (UK) »

They are just to keep in mind in case connections turn up later. They are common surnames. People tended to marry within their own religious and social circle.

But Etty didn’t when she married John Sutcliffe which is interesting.  :)
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Yes, I thought the same. A solicitor and a laundress isn't a typical pairing. John Sutcliffe's fellow boarders on 1881 census were manual workers. Head of household was an "excavator" from S. England.

Wallace Percy seems an odd choice of first names somehow  :-\

Percy was becoming a popular name in England. A relative of my Lancashire GF had it as a middle name, born in last 2 decades of century. Wallace suggests Scotland or Ulster.
Whilst on the topic of first names, I came across Charles Stewart Parnell Sutcliffe age 20 on 1911 census, Leeds area. I wondered if he was Etty's son, baby Charles on 1891 census. He must have  had Irish blood to go with those proud forenames.  :)
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Re: ETTY SUTCLIFFE, nee ??? brn 1854-55 Mayo Ireland
« Reply #34 on: Monday 06 September 21 20:38 BST (UK) »
Another thought. If Wallace Percy/Frank Kennedy remained in England and survived until 1939 he should be on 1939 Register along with his date of birth.
What happened to Mary, his sister?
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Re: ETTY SUTCLIFFE, nee ??? brn 1854-55 Mayo Ireland
« Reply #35 on: Monday 06 September 21 20:51 BST (UK) »
Wallace Percy ( Frank ) died in 1921 in Christchurch Hampshire, I am sure Charles Stewart Parnell Sutcliffe was Etty’s son.