Pigram family

[Marpatch]

I'm looking for info on John Pigram 1785. som of James Pigram.
I believe that John arrived in India 1822 part of 34th Regiment

[LizzieL]

I've found a John Pigram s/o James bapt in 1785 in HERTFORDSHIRE not Herefordshire.
I checked Herts because Pigram / Pigrum / Pegrum etc is quite a common surname here.
This John was bapt on 17 Apr 1785 s/o James and Sophia at Gilstone. Record says they were of Sawbridgeworth. There is a burial of a John of the right sort of age in Stansted Mountfitchet 7 Dec 1863 abode Stansted. But on the 1861 he's a widower born in Elsenham, so likely the son of John and Ann bapt 29 Jul 1787 Elsenham.

[Marpatch]

Thank you LizzieL. I'm looking for this family for a friend, he understand that John Pigram 1785 came from Essex. John 's father was James and grandfather Robert Pigrin 1740. My friend  has been told that James's wife was Sophia Love. I would be grateful of more help if possible.

[jomcd967]

Married at Gilston …… James Pigram, of the Parish of Gilston, in the County of Hertford, and Sophia Love, of the Parish of Sawbridgenorth of the same County, we’re married in this Church by license, this tenth day of January , in the year 1782. Both signed (badly/barely) and the witnesses were regular witnesses to other marriages that day.

Jo 

[LizzieL]

Thank you LizzieL. I'm looking for this family for a friend, he understand that John Pigram 1785 came from Essex. John 's father was James and grandfather Robert Pigrin 1740. My friend  has been told that James's wife was Sophia Love. I would be grateful of more help if possible.

I suggest you ask a moderator to move this to the HerTfordshire board, you have put it on HerEfordshire

[dawnsh]

Moved to Hertfordshire as requested.

[Marpatch]

I'm now looking for Robert Pigram 1740, I believe his wife may have been Hannah Camp. I have found 4 of his children. Any confirmation would be appreciated.
 Also John Pigram/Pegram 1785 who was part of 34th Regiment who went to India.

[Vance Mead]

There are several wills of Pigram available on Essex Archives' SEAX. This covers the eastern part of Herts. These people are mainly in western Essex, for example Clavering, with a few in Herts, for example Henry Pigram, of Gilston, yeoman, in 1732.

https://www.essexarchivesonline.co.uk/All_Results.aspx?intSearchType=12

[jomcd967]

Can I ask why you believe your John is the son of James and Sophia?

Possible baptisms…
John Pigram, s/o John & Ann, bapt 1787 Elsenham Essex
John Pegram, s/o William & Elizabeth 1787 Albury Herts
John Pigram, s/o James & Sophia (Love) 1785 Gilston Herts
John Pegram, s/o William & Esther 1787 Rayne Essex
John Pegram, s/o John & Mary 1782 Birchanger Essex
John Pegram, s/o George & Elizabeth 1783 Sawbridgeworth Herts

Military Records for John Pigram 34th Regiment of Foot…
John Pegrum, Private, 2/34th Foot, enlisted 23 Apr 1805, Napoleonic War Records 1775-1817
John Pegram, Sergeant, 34th Foot, Army Gold Medal/Military General Service Medal 1794-1814
John Pigrim, stationed at Dublin, 34th Regt Foot, 2nd Battalion, 25 Dec 1814-24 Mar 1815, Army Pay List
John Pigrim, stationed at Clonmel, 34th Regt Foot, 2nd Battalion, 25 Mar 1817-24 Apr 1817, Army Pay List
John Pegrum, Service dates 1793-1815; Service Place - Europe; Campaign - Napoleonic Wars; 34th Regt Foot (note: Moulmein India)

Records from India….
James Pigrum, born 20 Aug 1820, Black Town Madras, s/o John Pigrum of H.M. 34th Regt, Private, by a native woman (buried at 6 days)
Joseph Pegrum, born 8 Oct 1823, Masulipatam Madras, s/o John Pegrum, Private in the M.C. Regt, doing duty at this place and Irater, a native woman (buried 15 Jul 1824, s/o John Pegrum, Private in the 1st European Regt, on foreign service and Ivater, a native woman, age 9 months).
Sophia Pigrum, bapt 25 Apr 1827, Nagpur Madras, d/o John Pigrum, Corporal 2nd European Regt and Ireta, a native woman (buried 25 Jul 1836, d/o John Pigrum Beadle of Scotch Kirk, aged 9 years, 4 months).
John Pegrum, Corporal of the C.E. Station married Sophia Highfield, 17 Mar 1829, Madras
George Pegrum, born 7 May 1830, St Andrew Madras, s/o John Pegrum, Beadle of St Andrews Church & Sophia Highfield
John Pegrum, born 30 Jan 1833, St Andrew Madras, s/o John Pegrum, Corporal of the Carnatic European Veteran Battalion & Sophia Highfield (buried 11 Dec 1834, 1 year 11 mth, s/o John Pegrum, Sexton of the Scotch Kirk & Sophia Highfield).
Ann Sophia Pegrum, born 13 Apr 1836, St Andrew Madras, d/o J Pegrum, Beadle of St Andrews Church & Sophia Highfield
Sophia Pegrum, said to be about 56 years, wife of pensioner Corporal John Pegrum, buried 19 May 1856, Moulmein, of bronchitis.
John Pegrum, buried 1858, age 74, 10mths, Moulmein India, Pensioned Corporal 2nd Madras European, formerly of H.M. 34th Regt and Clerk of St Matthew’s Church, died of natural decay.

I can see that first children named James & Sophia could indicate the Gilston baptism, but also note that there are various online family trees that state that John Pigrum was born 1784 in Tamil NDu Madras India?

Jo