Blatchford Family

[b1gf00t]

I am currently researching the Judd Family and have hit a brick wall.
* Flora Lillian Judd (born 25 August 1908)
married Robert Linton Blatchford in 1928
Their children are as follows:
1. Betty Thelma Blatchford born in 1928 and died 20/08/1951 aged 23. I believe she married William Laurence Hamlin in 1948.
2. Allan Blatchford born 29/11/1929, married Elsie Joyce Malone (no date)
3. Jean Blatchford born 05/02/1931, married Ian Ellmers in 1953
4. Irma Blatchford born 22/01/1937, no name of partner/no date of marriage

Both Allan and Irma had three children. I have names and dates of birth for Allan's children but only given names for Irma's and no dates or surnames.
Jean's family are all named but no dates.

If anyone can help me with this I would be most grateful as I have exhausted all the other tools.

[Kloumann]

Betty Thelma on Findagrave

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/218599412/betty-thelma-blatchford

From the plaque, 'darling mother of Linda'

Jean Thema Ellmers on findagrave, 2003

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/169504131/jean-thelma-ellmers

Robert Linton on findagrave, 1968

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/181285912/robert-linton-blatchford

Death of an Irma Dorothy Roydon 1937-1967 Makara, Wellington

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/221604499/irma-dorothy-roydon

[Lucy2]

Hi

As found by "Kloumann" .... Irma Dorothy ROYDON :

If this is the "Irma" you are seeking, then there is a Probate file at Archives New Zealand.

It can be read at the following link >
https://ndhadeliver.natlib.govt.nz/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE43739681

I've only skimmed over the file, and it doesn't appear to have names of any children.   It may however provide a lead for further searching.

    ~  Lu

[Lucy2]

Jean Thema Ellmers on findagrave, 2003

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/169504131/jean-thelma-ellmers

[Forenames should read as Jean Thelma
**    Appears to be the wrong person -- according to NZBDM (online death listing ) this lady was born 15 May 1937.    From electoral roll information she also does not have a husband named "Ian".   

    ~  Lu

[Lucy2]

Hello

Not sure if you are aware, but there are at least 21 "family trees" appearing on the ancestry.com website, for the Family of Robert Linton BLATCHFORD and wife Flora Lilian/Lillian (nee JUDD).
Quite a number of these trees have rather huge numbers of people attached to them, so they may be "collections of random names" rather than "family histories", as such. 

I only looked fleetingly at some of them, and couldn't see anything relating to the children of above-named BLATCHFORD's.   And of course the grandchildren's names would not be shown in these trees, because they are likely to be living.  Still it may be worth looking over these "trees" - someone may just have the information you are wanting.

With your search being for probable "living persons", we here are not really able to help very much, and certainly the names of "the living", are not permitted to be published in threads in  this RootsChat forum.    Further, many records > electoral rolls, online newspapers,  etc. > are not yet available for searching online, in the time frame you would be needing.

I'll add a few other suggestions for searching in following post.

    ~  Lu

[Lucy2]

Firstly it may be worthwhile trying to obtain death or funeral notices for the say, BLATCHFORD "children" for whom you now have dates and places of death / burial.   More modern-day notices now often include names of grandchildren etc. - married names - places of abode etc.
If you're not lucky enough to live near to a library or other repository which holds copies of older newspapers, then you could seek help from NatLib (National Library of NZ)

https://natlib.govt.nz/
... refer to their "ask a librarian" service.

Depending on what information you retrieve from any such notices, you may wish to contact relatives directly.

If that's not a possibility, then you could try searching the NZ Birth Index in microfiche format - available at larger libraries and repositories in NZ.
[Note:  Birth Index up to 1956 only has child's name ...  from 1956-60 "place of birth" is also included ...  after 1960, the name (I think only maiden name from memory ? ) of the child's mother, is included.   The records go up to year 1990.  ]

AND ... there are of course nowadays, death / funeral notices published on the websites of funeral directors, newspapers, and the like.    Some also have archived notices.    [GOOGLE - "nz death notices"  or similar for results ]

Hope that is of some help ?

   ~  Lu

[Lucy2]

3. Jean Blatchford born 05/02/1931, married Ian Ellmers in 1953

Hi

Just for your records, this lady appears as Jean Patricia ELLMERS at marriage and also on electoral rolls (with husband named Ian ).

     ~  Lu

[Lucy2]

https://billiongraves.com/grave/Ian-Holmes-Ellmers/9127047

Husband of Jean Patricia ELLMERS (and their son ) .

Edited to add >

https://notices.nzherald.co.nz/obituaries/nzherald-nz/obituary.aspx?n=jean-patricia-ellmers&pid=193292377&fhid=12568
    ^ ^      Funeral Notice for Jean Patricia ELLMERS

   ~   Lu

[Lucy2]

1. Betty Thelma Blatchford born in 1928 and died 20/08/1951 aged 23. I believe she married William Laurence Hamlin in 1948.

Below is the Probate file of William Laurence Robertson HAMLIN (who was the widower of Betty Thelma).    He died 9 June 1992.
https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=3879391&digital=yes

^^   This man remarried a couple of years after the death of his wife BT.   In the file the names of his grandchildren appear firstly as beneficiaries (and note. they have a different surname to that of his married daughters, who are mentioned later.)   
It is possible that his three children (all named) were issue of his second marriage (- two of them appear in electoral rolls from 1978) 
The "darling daughter Linda" on BT's memorial plaque (see "Kloumann's" post at # 2) is seemingly not mentioned in her father's will (although one of his daughter's does have a slightly similar forename ??) - (so you would need to check microfiche records for her birth entry to obtain her full name.)

    ~   Lu

Edited for clarity :