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Elusive Mary Ellen born 10 September in Gateshead.
« on: Tuesday 21 September 21 20:50 BST (UK) »
I have been trying to find Mary Ellen Mallachin/ Johnson since I found her with my grandfather, their mother, step father and stepbrother on the 1911 Census.
I had not known anything about my grandfather until 1911 census was published. I had been told (by his only living child that he was born 9 June 1900 but found out that the year was actually 1899 and he was born in Gateshead workhouse as per birth certificate. His sister was born 10 September 1901 as on her baptism record but I have never found a birth registration for her. On baptism record she is Maria Helena Mallachin daughter of Margaretha Mallachin. Presumably RC. 
Her mother married a Charles Johnson in 1904 but he died a few months after. Both children were then known as Johnson.  Their mother then married a Thomas Coyne in South Shields begore moving to Blyth.
Mary Ellen only appeared on 1911 census and then on my grandparents marriage certificate and nowhere else after. I have kept going back to her and now have found her via marriage record but I wonder if it was normal for children not to have birth registered or is it just an oversight somewhere in the system.

Thanks in advance.
Emma.
DURHAM - Johnson
NORTHUMBERLAND - Hunter,  Pigdon, Hansen, Waddell?, Turnbull
LANCASHIRE - Crabtree
SCOTLAND - Mallachin or Mallichan or Mallaghan
NORWAY - Hansen

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Re: Elusive Mary Ellen born 10 September in Gateshead.
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 21 September 21 20:52 BST (UK) »
Failure to register a birth became a fineable offence in 1874/5
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Re: Elusive Mary Ellen born 10 September in Gateshead.
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 21 September 21 20:59 BST (UK) »
I thought there were some rules but wasn’t quite sure from when they applied. I am now at the “brick wall” stage with her yet again.
There is also no record of the family in the 1901 census. As the mother was from Scotland I have looked in Scotlands people records to no avail. Grrrrrr!
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DURHAM - Johnson
NORTHUMBERLAND - Hunter,  Pigdon, Hansen, Waddell?, Turnbull
LANCASHIRE - Crabtree
SCOTLAND - Mallachin or Mallichan or Mallaghan
NORWAY - Hansen

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Re: Elusive Mary Ellen born 10 September in Gateshead.
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 21 September 21 21:28 BST (UK) »
There is this marriage

Marriages Sep 1924   (>99%)
Johnson    Mary E   (Henry)  Beddow    Tynemouth    10b   389

Followed by


BEDDOW - Blyth. 4 Clark St (the residence of her parents)  16th inst age 29 years
Mary Ellen (née Mary COYNE)  d.b.w. of Henry BEDDOW

Interment Cowpen  Cemetery.  Deeply mourned

Deaths Dec 1931   (>99%)
Beddow    Mary E    29    Newcastle T.    10b   170    


Added Newspaper  17 December 1931 - Blyth News - Blyth, Northumberland


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Re: Elusive Mary Ellen born 10 September in Gateshead.
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 21 September 21 21:51 BST (UK) »
Hi mckha489, well that piece of information made me think. The bit with her maiden name nee Coyne but I should have realised that Coyne was her stepfather's surname.

She was born Mallachin, it changed to Johnson after her mother married in 1904 (maybe this man was their father.) then she married Henry Beddow. This is the most recent breakthrough in my tree but just puzzled as why I cannot find any registration for her birth.

Even stranger is that I think she had a daughter(June)  born 25 June 1931 same year she died but there is no birth registration for her either but there is one for her in Sept 1934 mother being Henrys second wife. Sooooo puzzling.
Emma
DURHAM - Johnson
NORTHUMBERLAND - Hunter,  Pigdon, Hansen, Waddell?, Turnbull
LANCASHIRE - Crabtree
SCOTLAND - Mallachin or Mallichan or Mallaghan
NORWAY - Hansen

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Re: Elusive Mary Ellen born 10 September in Gateshead.
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 21 September 21 22:18 BST (UK) »
Thinking about pronunciation in a thick accent I wonder about this birth with no MMN

MONAGHAN, MARY  ELLEN     - 
GRO Reference: 1901  S Quarter in GATESHEAD  Volume 10A  Page 1102


Added… forget that. Looks as though she died 1904

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Re: Elusive Mary Ellen born 10 September in Gateshead.
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 21 September 21 22:29 BST (UK) »
Have you got them in 1939?  (Henry and June and wife?).

See later

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Re: Elusive Mary Ellen born 10 September in Gateshead.
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 21 September 21 22:36 BST (UK) »
Well, to complicate matters … subsequent to Mary Ellen’s death notice there was a thank you notice and Henry Beddow was of Freehold Street.

In 10 December 1934 - Blyth News - Blyth, is a report describing the accidental drowning of Henry Beddow of Freehold street.   He is 32.   He does have a widow.
There is a photograph.


More discussion here.  10 December 1934 - Blyth News. Talks about his unemployment etc, sympathy to widow and a”brief married life”. No mention of a new child


Death notice says 36 Freehold Street.

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Re: Elusive Mary Ellen born 10 September in Gateshead.
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 21 September 21 22:58 BST (UK) »
Bit of a ramble here

Found second wife and new husband and blacked out person who is presumably June. It would be interesting to see her date of birth there.

Can’t help thinking the 1934 date is probably the correct one. It fits in a timeline of the 1933 marriage  of Henry Beddow to Alexandra MAYNE.

Mayne    Alexandra E G M    Beddow    Tynemouth    10b   204. March qrtr 1933


But, she did also have a son

Births Mar 1930   (>99%)
Mayne    John R    Parr    Tynemouth    10b   478

I can’t see a pre 1939 death for him, so if it’s June under the black line, where is John.
(I think father also John R died 1931)


Little son “Jack” still alive in memorial notice for father 28 January 1932 - Blyth News