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Birth certificate date help. Thines Belgium
« on: Saturday 02 October 21 14:10 BST (UK) »
Can I ask if there is a year date on the certificate for Philippe Joseph Vanderbecq, if so where is it located on certificate. It should be circa 1700. Regards
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Re: Birth certificate date help. Thines Belgium
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 02 October 21 16:05 BST (UK) »
I don't know whether boundaries have been redrawn, but this document is French rather than Belgian, and your hoped-for date is about 100 years too early.

The date is given in lines 3 and 4 according to the French Revolutionary Calendar:
Du vingt-huit jour du mois de messidor
l'an dix de la République française


There are various online calculators which will translate this to what the rest of Europe was using; the easiest one I found was at https://stevemorse.org/jcal/french.html

Enter the year (dix = 10), month (messidor) and day (vingt-huit = 28), and it gives 17 July 1802.

You can read more about the calendar, and find tables for working out the date manually, at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Republican_calendar

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Re: Birth certificate date help. Thines Belgium
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 02 October 21 16:27 BST (UK) »

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Re: Birth certificate date help. Thines Belgium
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 03 October 21 08:11 BST (UK) »
Hello,

From 1795 to 1815  these territories were invaded and annexed by France ( and that's why the certificate is a french one  ( an dix de la république française).


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Re: Birth certificate date help. Thines Belgium
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 03 October 21 09:05 BST (UK) »
I don't know whether boundaries have been redrawn, but this document is French rather than Belgian, and your hoped-for date is about 100 years too early.

There is no such language as Belgian :D
Certificates, even today, are in French or Flemish (Vlaams).
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Re: Birth certificate date help. Thines Belgium
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 03 October 21 10:54 BST (UK) »
There is no such language as Belgian :D
Certificates, even today, are in French or Flemish (Vlaams).
Note what I wrote:
....this document is French rather than Belgian....
'document' rather than 'language', and lack of 'in' (which you needed to include)  :P

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Re: Birth certificate date help. Thines Belgium
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 03 October 21 12:16 BST (UK) »
Can I ask. Would there be any marriage record/certificate for Antoine Vanderbecq & Marie Philippine Godalier. The first child I have is Antoine Joseph Ghislaine Vanderbecq Thines 1792. Family Search earliest civil records seem to be 1799-1890? Or would it come under the church records?
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Re: Birth certificate date help. Thines Belgium
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 03 October 21 13:21 BST (UK) »
Hello

In the Church records

They married in Thines on February 18th 1787

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSTQ-FBF?cat=4232508