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Osprey -- you're amazing! That Census link solves the problem of why I couldn't find either of them in the 1851 Census and explains how they met .... yes, she was 17 years old that him!!
Thanks also for the marriage for John and Grace as well as their probable burials!!
I've appreciated all the help and now because I've gotten so much, I'm going to post a Look Up Request in the Renfrewshire, Scotland board "just in case" it works as well there for a multi GR grandmother that I never dreamed of finding anything on regarding her marriage!
Keeping my fingers crossed that I'm as fortunate over there

Cheshire, Eng: HADDOCK, WORRALL, GOULDING, DICKINSON, DIMELOW
Lancashire, Eng: LITTLER, FARRIMOND, BILSBURY, DICKENSON, DICKINSON, THOMASON
Lanarkshire, Scotland: AIRTH, GARDNER, JAMIESON, PARK, URIE, SMELLIE, TITCHBORNE
Midlothian Scotland: AIRTH, EDMOND, GILCHRIST
Perthshire Scotland: FISHER, McLAREN, STEWART, McGREGOR
Renfrewshire, Scotland: HAMILTON, McKECHNIE, McKECHANY + variations