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Michael MALONEY
« on: Thursday 02 December 21 14:30 GMT (UK) »
Michael Maloney was born C1851, possibly in Currafin, which I believe is in County Clare Ireland.  His parents may have been John Maloney and Mary Whalan.  Michael, sometime before 1874, left Ireland for USA where he married Susan Kilmartin in Providence Rhode Island.  Between 1876 and 1878 they came to NSW Australia and settled in Queanbeyan NSW.  I have well documented history regarding Susan and Michael from the time they landed in Australia and have not been able to find anything on them beforehand.
Any information would be gratefully accepted.  Thank You bkr188
Kent: Plane/Playne/Plain, Brakefield, Oliver, Wells, Mainwaring/Manwaring, Martin, Bishop, Mills, Richardson, Wenman, Holdstock
Bethnall Green: Oliver
London:  Smith,  Nickolay, Blackmore.
Canada: Terry
Switzerland: Kneuss, Bergernat
Goudhurst: Martin
Tipperary Ireland: Woods, Fisher,
County Clare Ireland: Maloney, Whalan, Kilmartin

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Re: Michael MALONEY
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 02 December 21 22:52 GMT (UK) »
There is a baptism record for Michael Molony, parents John Molony and Mary Whealon, Sponsors Conor Morony, Bridget Roughan 24 Aug 1850
Refer p. 17 of NLI register for Ruan/Dysert Parish (adjacent to Corofin) at
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0783
Transcriptions of this register can be found at
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01r3e/

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Re: Michael MALONEY
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 02 December 21 23:14 GMT (UK) »
Marriage record, Rhode Island, Michael MALONEY and Susan KILMARTIN -

Can you please list all the information on this document.


"possibly in Currafin"  Where do you see Currafin as possible birthplace?


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Re: Michael MALONEY
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 02 December 21 23:35 GMT (UK) »

Queanbeyan Age and Queanbeyan Observer 4 Jan 1916 p3
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/31668748?

Obituary for Michael MALONEY....native of Currafin Co. Clare.....

NSW BDM death
7051/1916  MALONEY Michael parents Thomas / Mary    @  Granville

Buried Queanbeyan Riverside Cemetery


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Re: Michael MALONEY
« Reply #4 on: Friday 03 December 21 14:58 GMT (UK) »
First came by this from "Biographical register of Canberra and Queanbeyan".  A cousin who was our family "Mr Genealogist" gave me most of the details I have for this family.  Unfortunately, he died last week and I cannot confirm the source.  Another source has been www.bellsite.id.au/gdbtree.


"possibly in Currafin"  Where do you see Currafin as possible birthplace?
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Kent: Plane/Playne/Plain, Brakefield, Oliver, Wells, Mainwaring/Manwaring, Martin, Bishop, Mills, Richardson, Wenman, Holdstock
Bethnall Green: Oliver
London:  Smith,  Nickolay, Blackmore.
Canada: Terry
Switzerland: Kneuss, Bergernat
Goudhurst: Martin
Tipperary Ireland: Woods, Fisher,
County Clare Ireland: Maloney, Whalan, Kilmartin

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Re: Michael MALONEY
« Reply #5 on: Friday 03 December 21 15:11 GMT (UK) »

"There is a baptism record for Michael Molony, parents John Molony and Mary Whealon, Sponsors Conor Morony, Bridget Roughan 24 Aug 1850"

Thank you for this.  I am wondering about the spelling.  Would this be the way the Irish spelt those surnames or a direct interpretation from the original document?  The writing on the document is rather difficult to decipher.  It does look like a most promising possibility.  Once again Thanks.
Kent: Plane/Playne/Plain, Brakefield, Oliver, Wells, Mainwaring/Manwaring, Martin, Bishop, Mills, Richardson, Wenman, Holdstock
Bethnall Green: Oliver
London:  Smith,  Nickolay, Blackmore.
Canada: Terry
Switzerland: Kneuss, Bergernat
Goudhurst: Martin
Tipperary Ireland: Woods, Fisher,
County Clare Ireland: Maloney, Whalan, Kilmartin

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Re: Michael MALONEY
« Reply #6 on: Friday 03 December 21 23:44 GMT (UK) »
What documents do you have for BDM events for the people you are researching?

Death certificate for Michael MALONEY, died 1915, NSW would be useful to you. It will record marriage details, and his origins - birthplace, parents' names. Whoever is named as informant, wife Susan is alive and possibly source of information.

Birth certificate for first birth in NSW will record previous issue.

You need a source that identifies that Michael was ever in Rhode Island.

You might expect to see mention of Rhode Island in the obituary for Michael MALONEY?.

You might wonder why a couple marrying in Rhode Island would then head off to NSW?


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Re: Michael MALONEY
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 04 December 21 01:04 GMT (UK) »

"There is a baptism record for Michael Molony, parents John Molony and Mary Whealon, Sponsors Conor Morony, Bridget Roughan 24 Aug 1850"

Thank you for this.  I am wondering about the spelling.  Would this be the way the Irish spelt those surnames or a direct interpretation from the original document?  The writing on the document is rather difficult to decipher.  It does look like a most promising possibility.  Once again Thanks.

When working with Irish parish records one has to be prepared for many variations in spelling of certain surnames. A parish may have two or even three priests, each with his own preference of the way some family names were spelt. Also, a loss in translation frequently occurred when an emigrant arrived in his new country. New arrivals, many of whom were illiterate, would provide their details by word of mouth, and shipping clerks then recorded these as they  interpreted them. Hence we have Currafin for Corofin etc.

Incidentally, you seemed a little uncertain in your original post about the exact date of Michael's arrival in NSW, but I see from the NSW digital shipping records that Michael Maloney(24) together with Mrs Maloney(23) and infant William arrived in Sydney from the USA on 9 Sep 1877 on board the Star of the West.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01r3g/

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Re: Michael MALONEY
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 04 December 21 02:40 GMT (UK) »
bkr188
If you haven't already seen the following article, it may be well worth a read. It paints a picture of conditions on board the Star of the West, and the dispersal of immigrants to various workplaces within the Colony
Cheers knocnapog

ON BOARD AN IMMIGRANT SHIP.
The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954)  Fri 14 Sep 1877  Page 5