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Elusive couple, help please.
« on: Saturday 04 December 21 10:53 GMT (UK) »
Have this marriage can anyone find anything please

St Andrew Dudley
16 Nov 1845 George Adcox Vicarage F B Tailor Netherton Richard Vicarage Farmer ?
Mary Butler Keam M S Netherton Charles Butler Keam Farmer ?
Witnesses:- ? Wilding. Henry Weaver
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Re: Elusive couple, help please.
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 04 December 21 11:57 GMT (UK) »
Transcribed as
Mary Kearn Or Butler
Llandilo Fawr,  Carmarthenshire
Baptism 18 Jul 1823
Father Charles Butler
Mother Mary Kearn
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« Reply #2 on: Saturday 04 December 21 12:08 GMT (UK) »
Thank you,
That would make her 22 when married, on the marriage it says minor.
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« Reply #3 on: Monday 06 December 21 11:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi
It looks like the couple are on the 1861 and 1871 censuses as Adcox.
1851 as Hadock.
All with mother in law Rachel Wilden born Swansea Wales 1807 at 1851 Level Road B Hill
Elizabeth Wilden  daughter tailoress Clifton on Teme born 1835 and Emily 1843 Cleobury Mortimer Shropshire.
Mary is stated to be born 1816 dressmaker Clifton on Teme.George born 1819 tailor Bockleton or Bishops Frome Herefordshire.  Son Samuel W born 1852 Brierly Hill.

Rachel's burial states 13.10.1867 age 64 Brierley Hill.
Elizabeth Wilden bapt Clifton on Teme d of William and Rachel Wilden 19.8.1834.

Is that them?

Wedding for a Richard Vicarage and Mary Adcocks Bishops Frome 13.11.1817.
The only child I can find for them on line is Joseph 2.2.1820 Bishops Frome.
There seems to be an entry 1851 at Bromyard
Mary 61 labourer Docklow Hereford
Elizabeth 16 Winslow
James 11 Norton
Fred 9 Norton
Eliza 7 granddaughter Linton
Burial for Richard age 42 8.1.1835 Bromyard.

That lovely baptism that Rosie found for Mary Butler Kearne also gives occupation farmer and seamstress from Shelsey Walsh Worcestershire parish of Clifton on Teme.
In Clifton on Teme is that Rachel from the censuses I mentioned earlier
Rachel Kern maried William Wilding 9.11.1828.at Clifton on Teme.

So there is a connection somewhere.

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« Reply #4 on: Monday 06 December 21 12:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi me again
Mary Carne bapt 28.2.1794 d of Lewis Carne Cadoxton justa Neath
Rachel bapt 29.8.1802 d of Lewis and Elizabeth Carne Llatwit justa Neath

Sisters?

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« Reply #5 on: Monday 06 December 21 15:10 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much,

I have been trying to establish a connection between Mary and Rachel. It certainly looks like they are sisters.


1841 Census: Bransley, Cleobury Mortimer, Shrops
Rachel Wilding, 30, Toll Collector, not born in County
Mary Kear...., 15, not born in County

I wonder if Rachel took Mary as daughter.

I cannot find a birth for Samuel born Brierley Hill, there is one born Walsall but I don't think it's the correct one.
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« Reply #6 on: Monday 06 December 21 16:19 GMT (UK) »
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there is one born Walsall but I don't think it's the correct one.

Was it this one only Waldon is quite similar to Wilden  :-\

Adcock - Samuel Waldon mothers name Waldon

Dec 1853 Walsall

Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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« Reply #7 on: Monday 06 December 21 16:24 GMT (UK) »
Yes that's the one, but there is a baptism with parents James and Maria.

Name:Samuel Waldron Adcock
Baptism Date:11 Dec 1853
Baptism Place:Great Barr, St Margaret, Staffordshire, England
Religion:Anglican
Father:James Adcock
Mother:Maria Adcock
Page number:38

Name:Maria Waldron
Gender:Female
Marriage Date:1837
Marriage Place:St. Martin, Tipton, Stafford, England
Spouse:James Adcock
FHL Film Number:1526189Reference ID:2:3P7JGXN
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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 08 December 21 08:30 GMT (UK) »
ciderdrinker where do you get this information from please.

"That lovely baptism that Rosie found for Mary Butler Kearne also gives occupation farmer and seamstress from Shelsey Walsh Worcestershire parish of Clifton on Teme."

Sorry ignore this please just found image on Ancestry.
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