Could anybody help me trace any of these people back - Challinors in Oldham 1841

[snuttall]

I am looking at the Challinor family in Oldham. In 1841 there are 14 Challinors listed as living in Oldham on the census.

Many belong to one household - these are my direct ancestors who I know well - and can be discounted:

Head - William Challinor (45), wife Mary (45), children Joseph (20), William (15), Samuel (11), Ann (15), Mary (9), Mally (6), Elizabeth (3). Marriage and births all well-documented in local parish records, predominantly St Mary's Oldham and St Mary's Prestwich.

I am looking at the five 'other' Challinors in Oldham on the 1841 census, as I wish to establish if they have any connection with my own. These are, in 1841:

Household one:

Harriet Challender age 20
Cornelius Challender age 15
Ann Challender age 1
(All born in county)

Household two:

William Challinor – age 8 – living with Sarah and Hannah Bentley aged 35 and 9 respectively. Born in county.

Household three:
Margaret Challinor – age 7 – in Prestwich workhouse. Not born in county.

None of these individuals appear to be documented in parish records either in or outside of Oldham. I can't establish who they are or where they came from.

I have followed them forwards and have discovered a few parental names (which also don't seem to relate to any parish records) and that Cornelius does not appear to be a Challinor at all. Here are some select records going forwards:

Marriage for Harriet
March 1848 – Prestwich – James Robinson to Harriet Challender
Father: Richard Challender, Carter – witnesses Cornelius Healey, Martha Woolley

1851 census for Harriet and Ann - Oldham

Charlotte Calliner – head – widow - 53
James Robinson – son-in-law - 34
Harriet Robinson – daughter - 36
Ann Calliner – grand-daughter - 11
Mary Robinson grand-daughter – 2
(All born in Oldham)

Marriage for Cornelius Healey
Jun 1850 – Stockport – Cornelius Healey to Martha Woolley

1851 census for Cornelius – Stockport - the fact that the age tallies leads me to believe the Cornelius Challinor listed on the 1841 census was in fact Cornelius Healey, although I don't know why he was living with Harriet and Ann.

Cornelius Healy – Head – 25 – born Oldham
Martha Healy – Wife – 25 - born Stockport
John Wild – Son – 5 – born Oldham
Sarah Ann Woolley – Lodger – 25
James Woolley – Lodger – 2
Sarah Orvin Woolley – 2 months

Any assistance in untangling this or identifying who any of these various unidentified Challinors may relate to, or just pointers of where to look next, would be appreciated The individuals are:

Ann Challinor, born c. 1840 possibly to an unmarried Harriet
Harriet Challinor, born c. 1821 to Charlotte and Richard
Charlotte Challinor née Unknown, born c. 1798
Richard Challinor, born unknown, died before 1851
Margaret Challinor, born c. 1834
William Challinor, born c. 1833
Cornelius Healy / Challinor born c. 1826 - possibly not a Challinor at all - but connection unclear

[heywood]

Birth
March quarter 1840 Ashton and Oldham
Ann  Chaloner - no mother’s maiden name

Baptism 14th September 1851 - born March 8th 1840
Ann Robinson Challinor - mother Harriet

[heywood]

Death
1860 Oldham
Charlotte Healey 62 yrs

Oldham cemetery records
Charlotte H, is buried in the same grave as Harriet Robinson and Benjamin and James Robinson.

[tazzie]

Something funny going on with their surname....

 Richard HEALEY married Charlotte CHALLINOR
 6th Sept 1824 St Mary Oldham.
 Richard a carter of Mount Pleasant
 Charlotte spinster of Mount Pleasant
 Witness Jonathan Jackson.
 Richard signed Charlotte made her mark
 Married by banns.


 Then

Cornelius Headley ( could this be a mistake?)
 Father Richard Mother Charlotte
 Baptised 18 August 1825
Father a carter of Green Gate.

 Found in  lancs opc site

 Tazzie

 

[goldie61]

I thought I recognised this Challenor name.

You have made some posts before about this name - albeit on a different tack to this one.
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=856053.msg7244070#msg7244070
and
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=856063.msg7244225#msg7244225

Have you received the emails telling you there had been several replies from people who were trying to help you with your research on both these posts? Or looked at them to see what replies there were?
You have not replied to either of them.
A thank you goes a long way on Rootschat, where people may be more likely to try and help you next time you ask for help,  as in life in general.

[snuttall]

I thought I recognised this Challenor name.

You have made some posts before about this name - albeit on a different tack to this one.

Have you received the emails telling you there had been several replies from people who were trying to help you with your research on both these posts? Or looked at them to see what replies there were?
You have not replied to either of them.
A thank you goes a long way on Rootschat, where people may be more likely to try and help you next time you ask for help,  as in life in general.

I replied several times, once saying "Ahh thank you, that's so helpful and thorough!" ??

I haven't replied to every reply because I don't want to clog up the thread or people's inboxes. On other forums I am a member of, it's best practice only to reply if you have something to add.

[heywood]

What do you think of the Healey/ Challinor information?

[goldie61]

I haven't replied to every reply because I don't want to clog up the thread or people's inboxes. On other forums I am a member of, it's best practice only to reply if you have something to add.

Not quite how it works on here.
On that first link about apprenticeships, some 9 people gave of their time and experience to try and help you. I can see no comment or thanks from you on the whole of that post.
As far as I can see 'best practice' is be polite and say 'thank you' when people have made an effort to help, especially if they have spent some not inconsiderable time searching the internet for information for you.

[~buttons~]

I haven't replied to every reply because I don't want to clog up the thread or people's inboxes. On other forums I am a member of, it's best practice only to reply if you have something to add.

You haven't replied at all. General expectation is that "something to add" would include, at the very least, "thank you"

Manners cost nothing - who knows, you might even get help with your next question.