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Re: Waterston's or Waterson's of Hamilton, Lanarkshire
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 28 December 21 02:18 GMT (UK) »
I will send you the link to my website here with all the information you would need so you can see exactly what I have

Essentially I just want to track down Grace and William

With regards to William - I just want to find him and see what fate had in store for him

Here is the link https://www.secretlives.co.uk/alexander-waterson-catherine-haddow

Hopefully someone can find these 2 lost souls. I've exhausted everything in my capabilities

Have you read over Reply #15 & have you revisited the info. given here?...

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=788595.msg6441301#msg6441301

which included a link to the manifest https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVSK-GMG5

Your website has the wrong date for the William who emigrated in 1880...

"On the 21st of September 1889 William Immigrated from Glasgow, Scotland to New York, USA on board the Bolivia. He was never heard from again."

There's no evidence of whether you have confirmed or eliminated that William who had 4 children with him when he left Scotland with his unnamed wife i.e. I think this lead is what you need to be aiming at, finding births for the children named which will give the mother's maiden name, then the marriage of said William to the mother of those children which will/should in turn name both his parents?


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Re: Waterston's or Waterson's of Hamilton, Lanarkshire
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 29 December 21 00:57 GMT (UK) »
Annie

Thanks for bringing this to my attention. No idea how I missed it.

Problem is - No records of any of these children's births. Edmund you would have though would have been easy enough but nothing at all regarding him - I've tried all the spelling variations
McCARROLL, MCCARDLE, COX, STRACHAN, CALDWELL, RAMAGE, WOOD, JOHNSTON

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Re: Waterston's or Waterson's of Hamilton, Lanarkshire
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 29 December 21 03:24 GMT (UK) »
The closest I could find for Edmund & hopefully his name was misheard in the rush to list all passengers...

WATERSON EDWARD 1871 - 646/1 363 Govan and Govan Church

The surname fits, the location of departure fits & his age of 10 on departure fits, may be worth checking?

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Waterston's or Waterson's of Hamilton, Lanarkshire
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 29 December 21 09:28 GMT (UK) »
In Ireland Edward/Edmund are interchangeable so perhaps this also applies to Scotland?
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!


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Re: Waterston's or Waterson's of Hamilton, Lanarkshire
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 29 December 21 13:37 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for all of this

I've checked out the Edward Waterson - It's not him - Father listed as John Waterson and Catherine Harrison married in Liverpool, England 28th Feb 1870.

I actually think the William who travelled to New York wasn't my William at all. The birth of any potential children don't point to any of the areas my family lived in and further records of them have the children listed as being born in the USA as well as the wife being born there too. I think its the red herring which has created this brick wall.

I dont think I'm any closer to finding William or Grace - All avenues have been exhausted -

McCARROLL, MCCARDLE, COX, STRACHAN, CALDWELL, RAMAGE, WOOD, JOHNSTON

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Re: Waterston's or Waterson's of Hamilton, Lanarkshire
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 04 January 22 14:45 GMT (UK) »
Peter Strachan and Jane Waterson are buried in Bent cemetery, Hamilton and their headstone mentions a son Robert who died in the gold mines of Nicaragua

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Re: Waterston's or Waterson's of Hamilton, Lanarkshire
« Reply #24 on: Friday 21 February 25 22:38 GMT (UK) »
Paul -- just wanted to say how amazing your website it ... I'm not even related in any way but it made for fascinating reading!!!

Not sure if you've found anything on Grace Waterson Law aka Grace Clyde since you last posted?

As you know, Grace Waterson was born 3 September 1862 in Hamilton, LAN to mother Helen Waterson.

Helen also had a son Patrick Waterson born 8 Feb 1870 in Eastwood, REN and since you noted that Helen and Thomas Law were living together before their marriage, Patrick must have been his son. Not with them in 1871 though, so must have died as an infant.

As Grace Clyde she married Denis Duffy on 13 July 1882 at the Roman Catholic Chapel in Hamilton and her parents were listed as James Clyde, coal miner, and Helen Clyde, nee Waterson - both deceased. His parents were John Duffy, farmer, and Margaret Canning.

To make it more interesting, Helen and James Clyde never married each other - in October 1862 he married Agnes Cornfield in Hamilton LAN. At some point, Grace must have learned that he was her father so she used the surname Clyde at her wedding and even later on in a prison record in Ayrshire in 1889 as well as the surname of a son born after her 1882 marriage but having the surname written as Clyde or Duffy.

Grace and Denis were the parents of several children!!

She died in 1915 in Hamilton LAN
DUFFY, GRACE
53
WATERSON
1915
647 / 631
Hamilton

I hope this helps you track down all of Grace Waterson Clyde Law Duffy's children!!  :)
Cheshire, Eng: HADDOCK, WORRALL, GOULDING, DICKINSON, DIMELOW

Lancashire, Eng:  LITTLER, FARRIMOND, BILSBURY, DICKENSON, DICKINSON, THOMASON

Lanarkshire, Scotland: AIRTH, GARDNER, JAMIESON, PARK, URIE, SMELLIE, TITCHBORNE

Midlothian Scotland:  AIRTH, EDMOND, GILCHRIST

Perthshire Scotland: FISHER, McLAREN, STEWART, McGREGOR
 
Renfrewshire, Scotland: HAMILTON, McKECHNIE, McKECHANY + variations

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Re: Waterston's or Waterson's of Hamilton, Lanarkshire
« Reply #25 on: Friday 21 February 25 23:01 GMT (UK) »
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Thank you so much for this. You have no idea what a gift this is.

Up until now I have never found Grace. I have no idea how you managed to find this information but I'm stunned and really really pleased.

Thank you once again

Paul
McCARROLL, MCCARDLE, COX, STRACHAN, CALDWELL, RAMAGE, WOOD, JOHNSTON

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Re: Waterston's or Waterson's of Hamilton, Lanarkshire
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 22 February 25 16:38 GMT (UK) »
Paul --

I was researching James Clyde for another tree I was helping with and noticed that someone had him listed in their online tree at Ancestry as the spouse of Helen Waterson with daughter Grace Clyde.

Just as I was about to leave a comment letting them know that he married Agnes Cornfield in the month following Grace's birth and never married Helen, I thought I better do a little digging of my own to be certain.

I found someone online at the FamilySearch website that had actually kindly shared the birth, marriage + death certs that they had purchased and saw that indeed, Grace Waterson gave her name as Grace Clyde when she married and her father as James Clyde, coal miner, deceased (and of course, Helen Waterson, also deceased).

Indeed, James Clyde, coal miner, husband of Agnes C died in the Blantyre Explosion (or Hamilton explosion) in Oct 1877 along with 2 very young sons of his.

When I came across your website, I couldn't find a "contact" link so was delighted to find something posted here in case you didn't already have this info.

So glad that it's going to help you further your tree along!!


Cheshire, Eng: HADDOCK, WORRALL, GOULDING, DICKINSON, DIMELOW

Lancashire, Eng:  LITTLER, FARRIMOND, BILSBURY, DICKENSON, DICKINSON, THOMASON

Lanarkshire, Scotland: AIRTH, GARDNER, JAMIESON, PARK, URIE, SMELLIE, TITCHBORNE

Midlothian Scotland:  AIRTH, EDMOND, GILCHRIST

Perthshire Scotland: FISHER, McLAREN, STEWART, McGREGOR
 
Renfrewshire, Scotland: HAMILTON, McKECHNIE, McKECHANY + variations