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Re: Waterston's or Waterson's of Hamilton, Lanarkshire
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 25 December 21 00:36 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all so much for what you have done so far.

Wivenhoe - Thanks for your help just to answer the questions. I have Alexanders death certificate which lists his parents - I understand he was an old man and died in an asylum so maybe the names could be wrong. On the certificate his wife is listed as Catherine Haddow. So its definitely him.

On these two marriage certificates, what information is given about father?....(dec)?...what occupation?


1862  647/ 70   @  Hamilton
WATERSTON Jane  marr. STRACHAN Peter - Father Alexander Waterston, Weaver and mother Catherine Waterston nee Haddow


1870  562/ 103  @ Eastwood
WATERSON Ellen  marr.  LAW Thomas - Father John Waterston, Coal Pithead Worker and mother Catherine Waterston nee Haddow. I think the 'John' is a mistake

So son William joined the Royal Navy - I just have to find a way of tracking him down.

Forfarian - I didn't have the death of Margaret so I will research that now. There seemed to a flip between Mary and Margaret for some reason. Update I've viewed the certificate and its a weird one as the mothers maiden name is not Haddow. So I dont think this lady is who I'm looking for.

Ive applied for the asylum records but theres been a delay due to covid.
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Re: Waterston's or Waterson's of Hamilton, Lanarkshire
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 25 December 21 18:42 GMT (UK) »
There are three deaths of Waters(t)on(e)s, mother's maiden name Haddow

Ellen, 30, died Hamilton 1876
John, 69, died Edinburgh 1915
Margaret, 29, died Cambusnethan 1878.

I could only find this entry with a matching surname Arthur...

WOTHERSPOON MARGARET 29
HADDOW (mmn)
1878 - 628/ 264 Cambusnethan

Forfarian - I've viewed the certificate and its a weird one as the mothers maiden name is not Haddow.

Is the above cert. the one you viewed which has Haddow as MMN on the index?

Depending on who registered the death, there may be an error with the surname Wotherspoon?

I've had a similar error where the surname was recorded as Allison but should have been Alcorn.

Who was the informant of the death & what other info. was given re addresses, which may help deciding whether there may have been any errors?

Annie

Add...I think you can eliminate the above entry as this looks to be the matching marriage entry...

WOTHERSPOON JOHN / ARTHUR MARGARET 1871 - 628/ 69 Cambusnethan
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Waterston's or Waterson's of Hamilton, Lanarkshire
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 26 December 21 13:39 GMT (UK) »
Thanks all and thanks Annie

Yeah she's not my Margaret but it was worth a try

I'm still looking for William - Who I think went overseas but is that whats throwing me ?

and obviously Mary/Margaret

Paul
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Re: Waterston's or Waterson's of Hamilton, Lanarkshire
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 26 December 21 23:08 GMT (UK) »
Hi Paul,

Is it possible to do a recap of who is still missing with a timeline of events/dates/places for each please as trawling through everything takes so much time up?

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Waterston's or Waterson's of Hamilton, Lanarkshire
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 26 December 21 23:51 GMT (UK) »
1843 - Birth of son William in Blantyre

His son William - appears in 1861 and is Single.
Occupation Carpenter Crew on board the vessel Impregnable, The census place is Anglesey, an island off the north-west coast of Wales. No idea how he got there.

In 1868 he's listed on UK List of Military Deserters. Desertion Place: Chatham Publication Date: 14 April 1868 Regimental Number: 8822 Military Corps: Royal Engineers
Mar 31 1868 Chatham, Kent

In 1871 1871
Boarder in the Bryden household at 26 Annfield St, High Church, Glasgow.
Occupation Joiner aged 28

On the 21 September 1889 he leaves Scotland - Glasgow, Scotland to New York, USA on board the Bolivia. - The trail goes cold after that - Can anyone help?

What are all the details on the 1889 manifest to New York, do you have a link?

Annie

South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Waterston's or Waterson's of Hamilton, Lanarkshire
« Reply #14 on: Monday 27 December 21 00:32 GMT (UK) »
I just really want to track down the last of these distant family members

Grace Waterston. Born in Hamilton 3rd of September 1862. She's illegitimate and only mother Helen/Ellen Waterston listed on the certificate. The certificate is signed by Helens mother, Grace's grandmother Catherine Waterston. Helen eventually marries Thomas LAw and in the 1871 census Helen, Thomas and Grace are living together at 37 New Street, Eastwood, Renfrewshire. What's interesting is that Grace is now named Grace Law (taking her step-fathers surname). Graces mother dies when she's 13 years old in 1876 and Thomas Law dies in 1881 but not before remarrying Lizzie Williamson, a widow. Grace simply disappears. She snot on the 1881 census - No deaths or marriages listed - Its so annoying as I really want to know what happened to her.


William Waterston (Helen's brother) Birth 1843 Blantyre, Lanarkshire
Residence 1851 - 15 Lamb Street, Hamilton Living with mother Catherine, sisters Jane and Helen and brother John

1861 Age ‎~18‏ Residence Apr 7 1861
Single. Occupation Carpenter Crew on board the vessel Impregnable, The census place is Anglesey, an island off the north-west coast of Wales

Military Service UK List of Military Deserters. Desertion Place: Chatham Publication Date: 14 April 1868 Regimental Number: 8822 Military Corps: Royal Engineers Mar 31 1868 Chatham, Kent

1871
Boarder in the Bryden household at 26 Annfield St, High Church, Glasgow.
Occupation Joiner

Immigration Sep 21 1889 Glasgow, Scotland to New York, USA on board the Bolivia


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Re: Waterston's or Waterson's of Hamilton, Lanarkshire
« Reply #15 on: Monday 27 December 21 01:37 GMT (UK) »
I just really want to track down the last of these distant family members

William Waterston (Helen's brother) Birth 1843 Blantyre, Lanarkshire
Residence 1851 - 15 Lamb Street, Hamilton Living with mother Catherine, sisters Jane and Helen and brother John

1861 Age ‎~18‏ Residence Apr 7 1861
Single. Occupation Carpenter Crew on board the vessel Impregnable, The census place is Anglesey, an island off the north-west coast of Wales

Military Service UK List of Military Deserters. Desertion Place: Chatham Publication Date: 14 April 1868 Regimental Number: 8822 Military Corps: Royal Engineers Mar 31 1868 Chatham, Kent

1871
Boarder in the Bryden household at 26 Annfield St, High Church, Glasgow.
Occupation Joiner

Immigration Sep 21 1889 Glasgow, Scotland to New York, USA on board the Bolivia

Not sure if you seen my question above...

"What are all the details on the 1889 manifest to New York, do you have a link?"

There's a gap between his sighting in 1871 & his 'Immigration' in 1889.

Annie

Add...It would be an idea to update your info. to correspond with correct info. on other threads but also to let people know if you've confirmed/eliminated the info. given...

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=780237.0

"There is also an immigration record for a William Waterston, age 40, departing Glasgow on the vessel Bolivia for New York, arriving there on 21 September 1880"

Assuming this the correct William in question.

This appears to be the immigration record for William on the SS Bolivia in 1880.

He appears to be married with four children.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVSK-GMG5

South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Waterston's or Waterson's of Hamilton, Lanarkshire
« Reply #16 on: Monday 27 December 21 03:08 GMT (UK) »
While your posts are extremely good, giving a lot of info. there's an awful lot of identifying info. missing too...

"So what happened to Alexander Waterston after the birth of last child John in 1847 ? until I found his death on Aug 30 1890 in Kirklands Asylum, Bothwell. Usual Residence Raploch Street, Larkhall a Pauper Lunatic - Formally a hawker of small wares."

Who was the informant & was his wife named?

What is his occ. given as on the marriages of his children you have (dates)? which may help to find him on census'?

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Waterston's or Waterson's of Hamilton, Lanarkshire
« Reply #17 on: Monday 27 December 21 14:48 GMT (UK) »
Hi Annie

Thank you - I totally understand what you are saying about my posts -

I will send you the link to my website here with all the information you would need so you can see exactly what I have

Essentially I just want to track down Grace and William - If Grace died as a child I'll accept it but I'm really hoping her life ended up long and happy - Her family suffered enough.

With regards to William it feels like he was young and restless and if he was anything like his brother John then that would be true - I just want to find him and see what fate had in store for him

Here is the link https://www.secretlives.co.uk/alexander-waterson-catherine-haddow

Hopefully someone can find these 2 lost souls. I've exhausted everything in my capabilities

Paul
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