Leslie Nelson.

[majm]

Re the New Zealand connection


https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/74295252 The Advertiser, 27 March 1926

DONOVAN.—On the 16th March, at Christchurch, NZ., Harry, beloved husband of Florence Donovan, father of Norman, Inez, Nola, son-in-law of Mrs. Nelson, Queen-street—Inserted by his sorrowing sister-in-law, Mrs. West, Charlotte street.

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/CHP19260319.2.4  Press 19 March 1926

JM

[Dundee]

What I have found out is Mary Donovan May not be his birth mother.  I was told by a family member that Les Nelson’s mother was a Grigg.

Leslie Nelson.  P S. there is a record on Ancestry that Leslie Nelson is on a members tree. Grigg / Atkins. But I am not a member of Ancestry.  Dalek.

GRIGG was the maiden surname of Hazel's mother.

Hazel May BROWN
Birth Date:    4 May 1903
Birth Place:    Mount Crawford
Registration Place:    Crawford, South Australia, Australia
Father:    Charles Stanley BROWN
Mother:    Eva May GRIGG

Perhaps some stories have been mixed up.

Debra 

[dalek39]

Thank you everyone for your input.  I have seen the newspaper cuttings. I also saw another Brother George Nelson. B 1890. Turned out he was William George Nelson. Leslie Nelson’s brother.  These brothers were my grandmothers brothers but not much was know about them.  My information was mainly from  Rootschat. Ancestry. South Aust. BDM.  And other documents.   What I found strange is I sent off for a Birth Certificate for Leslie Nelson  born 1898  giving fathers name and received back no known person registered in that name with those details.   I realise that not all births were recorded, but having seen a record of  Leslie Nelson with mother Grigg it made me think.was he adopted or ??  As James and Mary were in there mid fifties when the first son was born.  To have a second after that is questionable.   Nothing is impossible. But one wonders.  That’s what I’m trying to find.  I have all the data on marriage. Deaths etc from my grandmothers diary     This Nelson family has a lot of mystery.  🙄🌺❤️

[dalek39]

One interesting thing. On Family Search  there is on his record. “ this person does not exist”.  I don’t know who put that there.  🙄

[dalek39]

 Re Leslie Nelson.  My grandmother was the last surviving child born to James And Mary Nelson.  She was born in 1881. Adelaide.  There was a son after that but he died at eight months.  Henry  Nelson.   My great grandmother was born in 1844. London.  And James was born in 1841.  Ireland.  Makes the well into their middle age when these brothers were born with a gap of ten years

[Dundee]

......but having seen a record of  Leslie Nelson with mother Grigg.....

As already mentioned, GRIGG was the maiden surname of Hazel's mother, not Leslie's.

I think it is highly likely that Leslie was not the biological child of James and Mary Jane.

As a matter of interest, there was a birth registered in Adelaide for a Leslie SMITH, son of Catherine SMITH, no father named. The date of birth is the same as Leslie NELSON - 15 Apr 1898.

Debra 

[majm]

Excellent find Debra.   I had set myself a task for tomorrow evening.   

JM.

......but having seen a record of  Leslie Nelson with mother Grigg.....

As already mentioned, GRIGG was the maiden surname of Hazel's mother, not Leslie's.

I think it is highly likely that Leslie was not the biological child of James and Mary Jane.

As a matter of interest, there was a birth registered in Adelaide for a Leslie SMITH, son of Catherine SMITH, no father named. The date of birth is the same as Leslie NELSON - 15 Apr 1898.

Debra 

[Dundee]

I also saw another Brother George Nelson. B 1890. Turned out he was William George Nelson.

Where did you find that his name was 'William George'?  His school admission records show a date of birth as 9 Jan 1889.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSV8-K75P

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSV8-KSWN

I don't know how reliable this date would be as Flora's is all over the place.  She was born on 3 Oct 1881, but school admissions give the date as 3 Oct 1882 and 3 Oct 1883.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSV8-K9G3

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSV8-K9RM

Debra 

[dalek39]

Debra.  Thank you for your help .very grateful mdear.     I know it’s confusing. Sorry, but I have different dates as well.  Firstly…Leslie Smith born to Catherine Smith looks very likely.  I have been searching all possibilities with the name Nelson.  I don’t alway rely on “ here say” which can be misleading.   I usually go with documented proof. Though expensive , it’s usually the only way to get the facts.   We all take advise on some evidence given.  I am guilty of that, but try to be careful.  Sometimes it pays off, other times , trouble. 😬. As for William George Nelson,   I had been searching the name George Nelson, and got nowhere.  I contacted a member on a certain site who had my tree names in hers.  She said it was in the Trove paper that the wedding of William George Nelson of Carrington St Adelaide  son of James Nelson was being married at Crystal Brook SA to May Craigie of Adelaide.  I knew my Great grandfather was residing at Carrington St at the date given.   So.  George was William George.   And.  She sent me a photo of his son who was the spitting image of my Grans sister,,,
Now. Flora Nelson.  My grandmother.   I have her diary. And she has her DOB as 3rd October 1881.  In her death record they have her death  as  Thursday 4th May 1967. Age 86. She is buried with her husband at Bromley Cemetery. Christ Church. New Zealand…
On her marriage certificate it states she was 31. 14th March 1905. 
What else can I say.  We can only rely on dates given on documents.  If the dates are all over the place it’s in the transcriptions. 
I know my thread on this family has been long and tedious at times. But I only hope I have understanding moderators   With the patience of “Ned”.   You have all been terrific to me.  I can’t thank you enough.   I’ve been a long time driving you mad.  Happy New Year to you all. And thanks.     🌹🌺🤓