Campbell/Stewart Liaran

[Cotton53]

Seeking family information on the John Campbell and Jannet Stewart who gave birth to a Finlay Campbell in 1775. Fortingall parish baptism information I have seen referenced Liaran. My Finlay Campbell is my 3rd great grandfather and his father was John Campbell. By the late 1700s they both were living in the States in North Carolina. John died about 1804. Finley apparently died about 1829 in Tennessee. Any insight is greatly appreciated.
Thank you
Bruce Anderson

[Forfarian]

Welcome to RootsChat, Cotton53.

The source of all the available information is Scotland's People (SP) www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk - it's pay-per-view but modestly priced.

According to the free index there to the church registers, John Campbell and Janet Stewart in Fortingall had seven children
Duncan, baptised 29 February 1756
Alexander, baptisef 16 July 1758
Ann, baptised 17 April 1763
Archibald, baptised 31 May 1766
Donald, baptised 21 August 1769
John, baptised 18 July 1772
Finlay, 14 November 1775
You can view all the originals online.

Bear in mind that dates are expressed as dd/mm/yyyy so for example 9/11/1800 means 9 November 1800 not 11 September 1800 (I think it's only in the US, Canada and one or two minor countries that use mm/dd/yyyy - see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_format_by_country)

Liaran may be the name of the farm or croft in the parish of Fortingall where they lived, but I don't recognise it and it's not listed at www.scotlandsplaces.gov.uk - the whole of the Name Books volume for Fortingall appears to be missing. There are loads of old maps at https://maps.nls.uk/.

You can read about the parish of Fortingall at https://stataccscot.edina.ac.uk/static/statacc/dist/parish/Perth/Fortingal. The parish is a large one, covering not just the village of Fortingall but the whole of Glen Lyon.

[Throth]

The only settlement with a similar name that we have come across is Learan, which is on the north side of Loch Rannoch.  Below is the link to the National Library of Scotland OS map (1st edition) which shows it.  It may also be Learn on James Stobie's map of Perthshire (also on-line at the NLS) but, if so, it seems to have been slightly misplaced being a little further west of the present day Learan.

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16&lat=56.69172&lon=-4.33008&layers=5&b=1

Throth (www.borenich.co.uk)

[Forfarian]

Good find, Throth - that must be it.

I wish it were possible to search Scotland's Places using wildcards or soundalike! Though it would still not have found Liaran/Learan because the Fortingall Name Book isn't available.

https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/6641711

[Kmaleski]

Hi Bruce,

I have indexed the entirety of Campbell records for the parishes of Fortingall/Kenmore/Weem/Killin.

I have identified and separated the Fortingall families of Rannoch and Glen Lyon, and have been assembling the family trees with secondary sources including Throth's website.

John Campbell and Janet Stewart's children as Forfarian identified:

Duncan, baptised 29 February 1756 - Carie on south side of Loch Rannoch
Alexander, baptised 16 July 1758 - Camghouran east of Carie
*Donald , baptised 20 May 1761 - at Inverhadden - but mother is Jean Stewart - so may be different family or recording error
Ann, baptised 17 April 1763 - Camghouran
Archibald, baptised 31 May 1766 - Inverhadden
Donald, baptised 21 August 1769 - Inverhadden
John, baptised 18 July 1772 - died 8 Oct 1861 at Fortingall, Kirkton
Finlay, 14 November 1775 - Learan

I took a look at the Campbell trees that have John settling at Anson, Carolina.  I do not believe that tree fits this family, as Finlay's father John would have been born 1728 ish and this John has no son Farquhar or daughter Catherine.

The name Farquhar does not appear AT ALL in these parishes for Campbell - but it DOES however appear in the Argyllshire and Aberfoyle records.  Maybe Finlay was not related to John/Farquhar or maybe it's just the wrong Finlay.

Going through Donald Whyte's Dictionary of Scottish Emigrants to the USA, it appears the the vast majority of Carolina settlers were Argyllshire or lowlanders.  Perthshire almost exclusively settled New York.  This is just from what I have seen in sources and mapping out families and may not always be the case.

That being said - I have seen a number of migrant families immigrate while leaving some children in Scotland, so be aware that does occur, I am just not sure that is the case with John Campbell and Janet Stewart. Do you have a death date with age in your sources for John and Janet?