Thomas Vernon, Misterton 1724 (possibly)

[Tim Vernon]

Hi All,

I've been researching my Vernon ancestors for a while now and have hit a bit of a brick wall. 

I have traced my 6 x Great Grandfather, Thomas Vernon (b. 1724) to Misterton, Notts.  My only reference is in other's trees, I can't find any definite source.  He is often listed as having married Sarah. 

There is a marraige between a Thomas Vernon and Sarah Gell in Misterton in 1736, found on this forum.  But that would make him 12 at the time of the wedding.  The marraige seems almost too good to dismiss, especially with no definite evidence of his birth date. 

Is anybody able to help me identify a definite birth date for Thomas please?  and if possible, his parents (His father is sometimes listed as Richard, although I have no source for this either)

Many thanks in advance, Tim Vernon

[larkspur]

Baptism Misterton, All Souls
27 Oct 1723 Tho. son of Tho VERNON.....no mother named.
Tho. Vernon does appear to baptise other children in Misterton and his wife is listed as Mary on those. In 1727 he is listed as a taylor and in 1730 a labr. so could be two separate Thos'.
There is also a marriage at Misterton 16 May 1758 with an Elizabeth WILLSON. Only found one baptism for this couple in Misterton 17 Jun 1759 Thomas son of Thomas and Elizabeth Vernon.
There are however a few burials that could be your Thomas too.
26 May 1732 Thomas Vernon, notes son of Thomas- labourer
17 Dec 1759 Thomas Vernon notes Thomas the younger ( died shortly after marriage perhaps?)
13 March 1749 Thomas Vernon notes Thomas the Elder.

Possible remarriage for the Widowed Elizabeth Vernon? Again at Misterton, 7 April 1760 George Taylor & Elizabeth Vernon.

[Tim Vernon]

Thanks Larkspur,

The baptism in 1723 could feasibly be the right Thomas...... if my research is correct, he had my 5xGreat Grandfather, Richard Vernon, baptised 26th July 1747 in Misterton.  Sarah being the Mother's name.

Similarly, they had Robert (1749), John (1752) and Francis (1754) all bapstised in Misterton apparently.

Richard went on to Marry in Mexborough and live/die in Sprotborough (Doncaster).

Plenty of evidence of Richard from Mexborough and Sprotborough but struggling with anything from Misterton.

Thanks again,
Tim

[Tim Vernon]

Think I've tied myself in more knots!

I've searched everywhere for a marraige of Thoms Vernon to "Sarah" as is suggested by the baptism record in Misterton of Richard and siblings and the only one that jumps out at me is still the 1732 marraige to Sarah Gell.

This has got me questionning whether the Thomas Vernon b.1723 is the correct one. 

There is a Thomas Vernon d. 1887 aged 70 in Misterton (b. c1717) and Sarah Vernon (widdowed) d.1897 in Misterton.  I have also found a Thomas Varnham/Vernham b.1716 in Misterton.

If this is the right Thomas, he would have been 19 when he married Sarah Gell in 1736 (more plausible).

But......it would mean an 11 year gap between getting married and having their first born (Richard b.1747)

Does any of this sound plausible?

Any help or advice would be very much appreciated, I really have hit a brick wall!

[larkspur]

  "There is a Thomas Vernon d. 1887 aged 70 in Misterton (b. c1717) and Sarah Vernon (widdowed)
   d.1897 in Misterton.  I have also found a Thomas Varnham/Vernham b.1716 in Misterton."

 I am assuming  you mean he died in 1787?? Burial Misterton 31 Jan 1787 John Vernon aged 70.

How about this baptism at Misterton 1 July 1716 Tho. son of Tho. VERNHEM

Edit---oops only just noticed you already mentioned him---we all make slip ups!!

[Tim Vernon]

Definitely 1787......told you I was tying myself in knots!

How about this baptism at Misterton 1 July 1716 Tho. son of Tho. VERNHEM

Yeah, I'm thinking this might be the right Thomas, I've seen a few Vernon/Vernhem/Vernham mix ups.

Thanks Larkspur

[Tim Vernon]

So after concentrating elsewhere on my tree, I come back to the elusive Mr Thomas Vernon of Misterton......

The more I think about it, the more I am convinced that the correct Thomas is the one who married Sarah Gell in 1736 and died in 1787, aged 70. Meaning that he was born around 1716.

I had previously found him (as did Larkspur), having being baptised in 1716, but can't for the life of me remember where or can find record of him again. Can anyone help please?

Thanks,
Tim

[larkspur]

NFHS cd has the baptism  1 July 1716 Tho. son of Tho. VERNHEM

Possible siblings
14 Dec 1718 Sarah VARNHAM
20 Nov 1720 Roger VARNHAM son of Tho. & Mary
10 May 1724 Mary VARNAM

[Tim Vernon]

Thanks Larkspur.....Think I may need to make a purchase!