Please can someone help with a Heraldry Question? Thomas Turner of Kelmscot

[emjsw]

Hello,
Thank you for reading my post.
An ancestor of mine (my 10x great grand uncle) Thomas Turner (died 1682 = jnr) was the son of Thomas Turner (died 1663 = snr) and Anne nee Deane of Hall Place Filkins, Oxon. I am not sure where he was born. Thomas snr bequeathed  him Hall Place, Filkins and his son John Kelmscot Manor, John died in 1667, he sadly drowned and so Thomas then had both.

Thomas married Ann Faulkons/Faulkcon/Falcons 2 Jan 1648 • St. Bartholomew The Less, London, England. In Boyd's survey of London people in 1650 Thomas was living in Holborn with wife Ann nee Falcons, son of Thomas Turner of Hall Place, Oxon and Anne Deane daughter of ? Deane and their 5 children. He worked at Cursitors Court. Anne Falcons father was Thomas Turner, citizen and haberdasherer (I think Thomas was in a livery company).

http://kelmscott.org.uk/documents/kelmscott_2___manor_967.pdf In 1665 Thomas Turner was awarded a coat of arms, I am not sure why.

The award = arms - Ermines on a cross Argent pierced of the field 4 cross molines Sable. Crest = A lion passant (?) guardant Argent, in his dexter paw a like millrind - "vid Sir Edward Bysshe's grants pg 21 where there is another coat" = does this mean the family already had a coat of arms??

I am not sure what this means, why he was awarded it, what the symbols might mean? Was it because his father in law was a member of a livery company (just like the paternal family of his son's wife Elizabeth Mann), did he do something special as a cursitor, would it have made him a Sir?..... sorry so many questions!

I am hoping any information might also shed light on who Anne Deane (Thomas' mother) was and whether her family were linked to a livery company.

If anyone can demystify heraldry for me I would be very grateful
Thank you for reading.
Best wishes Emma

[emjsw]

Here is an image of it from his grave stone

[emjsw]

Buried next to him is his son Thomas who inherited Kelmscot Manor and Hall Place, he married Elizabeth Mann, daughter of Benjamin Mann citizen draper/dyer of London
His coat of arms is a bit different (pls see centre and crest), presumably to incorporate his wife's families arms? I can find no award for his

[emjsw]

Thomas Turner of Cursitor's court near Cursitors Alley, Holborn (nr Fleet St).

Thomas Turner of Hall Place Filkins Gent (I know nothing of him)
son
Richard Turner of Hall Place Filkins Gent- married ? Woodward daughter of ? Woodward of ? (can't find marriage - he died 1600 in Kelmscott and left Hall Place to son Thomas, there is no mention of Kelmscot Manor, it may have been 2 smaller buildings at this point.
Son
Thomas Turner of Hall Place Filkins Gent - married Anne Deane, daughter of ?Dean of ?
Son d 1662 at Filkins, buried Broadwell, left Hall Place and Kelmscot manor.
Thomas Turner of Cursitor's court near Cursitors Alley, Holborn Gent, married Anne Falcons daughter of Thomas Faulkon of co Derby (although he was working as a habedasher in London and was buried there. Thomas died 1682 at Kelmscott
Turner of Hall Place Filkins

[KGarrad]

Burke's General Armory of England, Scotland, Ireland and Wales says:

Turner (Hall Place, in parish of Bradwell, co, Oxford and Curisitors Court, near Cursitors Alley, co.Middlesex; Allowed at Visitation Middlesex 1663, to Thomas Turner, son of Thomas Turner, grandson of Richard Turner and great-grandson of Thomas Turner, all of Hall Place). Ermines on a cross argent pierced of the field four crosses moline sable.  Crest - a lion passant guardant argent in the dexter paw a fer-de-molines proper.

There are arms of 52 Turner gentlemen mentioned

[KGarrad]

Cursitor - Formerly, in England, one of twenty-four officers or clerks in the Court of Chancery, also called clerks of the course, whose business it was to make out original writs, each for the county to which he was assigned.

[emjsw]

Hi KGarrad,
That is great thank you ever so much for looking that up and for the insight into cursitors. I appreciate your help.
All the best Emma

[KGarrad]

Buried next to him is his son Thomas who inherited Kelmscot Manor and Hall Place, he married Elizabeth Mann, daughter of Benjamin Mann citizen draper/dyer
His coat of arms is a but different, presumably to incorporate his wife's families arms? I am find no award for his

Generally, a wife's arms were either quartered (as in the Royal Standard) or impaled (side-by-side, man's arms on the left as we see it).

[KGarrad]

There is a website I use when trying to understand heraldic terms:
https://www.heraldsnet.org/saitou/parker/Jpglossm.htm

Marshalling explains quartering and impaling.