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Nixon or Hughes?
« on: Friday 28 January 22 10:33 GMT (UK) »
In researching the family tree, we have found a conundrum.  My Great great great grandmother has 2 surnames, depending on which side of the family you talk to.

We believe that she was born
SARAH ANN ROUND
Mar 28 1813  Dudley, Worcestershire, England
July 31 1875 (at age 62)  Wellington, Nth Island, New Zealand

Married @ St Thomas in Dudley  20/4/1829

JOSEPH HUGHES
1810  Dudley, Worcester, England
Circa Aug 29 1840 (at age ‎~30‏)  Dudley, Worcestershire, England

They had a daughter ANN ISABELLA HUGHES
12 August 1830 Greater London
14 August 1903 Kaikoura New Zealand.

Sarah then married

MICHAEL COLEY
Born 1813 - England. 
We have no more information on Michael apart from that he could be known as John, but on the Bernicia passenger list he is Michael.

There are records of Sarah and Michael Coley travelling to New Zealand on the Bernicia, leaving Downs on 10 July 1848, arriving in Nelson NZ on 1848.  There is also Anne Hughes on the same ship.  She was 17 year of age.  Michael and Sarah also had a child travelling with them called Isabella, but no age mentioned.

ANN ISABELLA HUGHES was apparently a Quaker in London and converted to Catholicism when she Married GEORGE JOSEPH CHAPMAN 9/7/1849 at St Michaels Anglican Church, Waimea West, Nelson , NZ

Now, the other side of the family are saying that Ann Isabella's name is ANN ISABELLA NIXON (HUGHES)  There has been much speculation for many generations.  There are thoughts that her name was Nixon, Hickson, Hughes or Coley,   

There are talks that Ann Isabella was christened at the St George's in Middlesex. (2139) - 1/2/1831
giving birth date of 12/8/1830.  Daughter of JOHN and SARAH NIXON Back Lane, in Tower Hamlets, Borough of St George, East Parish County, Middlesex.

25/7/1842 MICHAEL (aka John) COLEY and SARAH HUGHES (widow) of Holly Lane were married in the Trinity Church, Parish of Camden, Middlesex.  The person who has researched this can not find a marriage to a Hughes to support her argument.

Is there anyone out there that could shed any light on this?





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Re: Nixon or Hughes?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 28 January 22 10:38 GMT (UK) »
Sorry this paragraph...

25/7/1842 MICHAEL (aka John) COLEY and SARAH HUGHES (widow) of Holly Lane were married in the Trinity Church, Parish of Camden, Middlesex.  The person who has researched this can not find a marriage to a Hughes to support her argument.

Should read

25/7/1842 MICHAEL (aka John) COLEY and SARAH NIXON born HUGHES (widow) of Holly Lane were married in the Trinity Church, Parish of Camden, Middlesex.  The person who has researched this can not find a marriage to a Hughes to support her argument.

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Re: Nixon or Hughes?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 28 January 22 11:20 GMT (UK) »

We believe that she was born
SARAH ANN ROUND
Mar 28 1813  Dudley, Worcestershire, England
July 31 1875 (at age 62)  Wellington, Nth Island, New Zealand

Married @ St Thomas in Dudley  20/4/1829

JOSEPH HUGHES
1810  Dudley, Worcester, England
Circa Aug 29 1840 (at age ‎~30‏)  Dudley, Worcestershire, England


There is a Joseph and Sarah HUGHES living in Dudley in 1851 and their children's birth registrations show Sarah's maiden surname as ROUND.  Are you sure you have the right marriage?

Piece:    2033
Folio:    357
Page Number:    18

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGGN-WZV

Children missing from that transcription are Caroline, 9, Mary Ann, 4, and James, 3.

Debra  :)

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Re: Nixon or Hughes?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 28 January 22 12:06 GMT (UK) »
No, she married Michael COLEY as Sarah HUGHES, a widow, so HUGHES is not her maiden surname.  Unfortunately neither have named a father.

Just having a brief look, it seems that you have lucked out with events in NZ all being before October 1875 when more information was provided on certificates.  The child Lucy born in 1875, was it late enough for more info (mother's place of birth)?  Does Ann's death cert tell you where she was born and parents' names?  I am just wondering where the idea of Dudley has come from, as Michael and Sarah were married in London.

Debra  :)


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Re: Nixon or Hughes?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 28 January 22 12:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Here are the baptisms I can see for Joseph and Sarah Hughes

Anne 15.8.1830 of Netherton Dudley brickmaker
Esther Round Hughes 2.12.1832 same
Sarah 9.3.1834
Drusilla 18.3.1836 netherton tradesman
William Round Hughes 25.3.1838 Netheron brickmaker
Caroline 5.12.1841
Mary Ann 20.6.1847 born 20.5.1846 Sweet Turf brickmaker
James 3.9.1848 Netheton brickmaker


With the census Dundee found of 1851 which is obviously them at Cinder Bank ,Sarah can't be the same woman going to New Zealand with Michael Coley in 1848.

Sorry

ps I've found the marriage at Holy Trinity Grays Inn Road  Camden
Sarah Hughes widow Hollies Land and Micheal Coley bach Hut/Hunt Lane .Fathers dec

No mention of Nixon.

Looking back there is indeed a baptism for a Ann Isabella Nixon
Ann Isabella  born 12.8.1830 bapt 2.1.1831 d of John and Sarah Nixon carpenter and joiner Back Lane St George in the East Stepney
sisters Maria Elizabeth and Sarah Elizabeth 28.2.1836 age 3 and 0
brother John 13.8.1838.

All except Ann Isabella are at Butlers buildings Bethnal Green in 1841 -John and Sarah 40.
Marraige St Dunston in the West John Nixon and Sarah mitchell 28.9.1828 wit Wm King M King.

Sorry again
pps just found Sarah Nixon on the 1851 census ,no Ann present ,she is a widow

https://www.ancestrylibraryedition.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/8860/images/MDXHO107_1521_1522-0607?pId=2849640

So where is the Hughes connection?
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Re: Nixon or Hughes?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 28 January 22 12:52 GMT (UK) »
Michael and Sarah also had a child travelling with them called Isabella, but no age mentioned.

Where are you seeing that?  I can only see Michael and Sarah together and Ann noted separately as she was classed as an adult.

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Re: Nixon or Hughes?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 28 January 22 20:41 GMT (UK) »
In the passenger manifesto of the Bernicia

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Re: Nixon or Hughes?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 28 January 22 20:44 GMT (UK) »
.  George Chapman only had one wife, but there are various documents with her name as Sarah Hughes and Sarah Nixon

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Re: Nixon or Hughes?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 29 January 22 01:55 GMT (UK) »
There is no child on any of these.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-X9R3-BZQ

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-X9R3-Y5Q

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-X9R3-Y5F

This one has an error in naming Michael as John, and Isabella is an adult, not a child, so would be most likely be referring to Ann.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-X9R3-YP8

Does Ann's death certificate name her parents?

Debra  :)