"What Would You Do?" Brickwall advice request

[xpress4]

Hi All,

I'm taking another turn at a long standing brickwall. Denis Moore of Queens County married Bridget Law likely a just prior to 1839 when they had their first child, Mary Ann Moore, 25 APR 1839 • Instiogue Parish, Kilkenny.

Denis was Catholic. However, I believe, although I cannot prove it, Bridget Law would have been protestant. Denis worked for the Ordnance Survey starting in Queens County and then moving on to work in Kilkenny for a short time.

Bridget would have been from Queens County or Kilkenny I believe. They didn't stay in Kilkenny long, they moved onto Scotland after that with the survey so I have little to go on after the birth of this child.

Just wondering what you all would do if you were working on this? Where would you turn? If I follow Irish naming patterns, Bridget's father would have been named Patrick Law and mother Mary Ann (although I know I cannot bet the farm on that).

I cannot find a marriage record in either county for Bridget and Denis. If she was indeed protestant, I believe they would have married in her parish perhaps...wherever it was? Not sure if this is a true brickwall and I should accept I cannot go further with the Law familiy or if I've left a stone unturned somewhere.

Thanks for any input! 

[shanreagh]

Well I would do heaps more searching after listing all the children of Denis and Mary Anne.
I would try to find out which side/s of whose family the names have come from.  This might mean a dive into finding the brothers and sisters of both D & B.

Using your hunch based on the names used in D & B own children I have found 2 records for a Patrick  Law owning land on Griffiths Valuation.  The date of this record is 1849 the parish is St Canice. ETA Walkinslough

https://www.askaboutireland.ie/

Just found the baptism for Mary Anne. It gives the sponsors names as James Garland and Mary Walsh from the parish of Clonany/Clonanny? have you followed these up to see how they tie in?  Sponsors are very important in RC baptisms.
 
More to come......

[phenolphthalein]

Ah You need Sxotlands people both for the census records and baptisms?births of kids,  If you are lucky enough th have a bdm in 1855 then you will get heaps of info,

Indexes are free and I have found ordered records fairlt cheap.
Censuses in 1841, 1851, 1851 etc

With parish records remeber to check all record types for the area including the non-conformist ones.

In Scotland eldest son after paternal grandfather and eldest daufgter after materna; grandmother revese for 2nd etc

Good hunting
pH

[Kiltaglassan]

Ah You need Sxotlands people both for the census records and baptisms?births of kids,  If you are lucky enough th have a bdm in 1855 then you will get heaps of info,

http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/

In 1855, the first year of statutory civil registration, the following additional information was recorded:

1. Other children and whether they were living or deceased
2. Ages of both parents
3. Birthplaces of both parents
4. Parents’ usual residence
5. Baptismal name (if different).

As a result entries cover two pages and are especially valuable to researchers.

https://tinyurl.com/yvpu3trr

KG

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Could this be your Denis & Bridget in England in 1871

Piece:   110
Folio:   67
Page number:   32
Household Members   Age   Relationship
Denis Moore   56   Head
Bridget Moore
49   Wife
Rose Moore
25   Daughter
Catherine Moore
22   Daughter
Richard Moore
14   Son
Jane Moore
12   Daughter
Lousie Saumfarie
1   Granddaughter

I had a few credits for Scotlandspeople so looked up his Richard's  birth. His full name was Richard George Moore born Kelso 18th April 1856. His father James Moore-occ labourer, mother Bridget Moore nee' Law. His sister Jane was also born in Kelso but have not looked at that image.

Hope this helps.

John

Added this 1861 england census confirms James occupation.

Piece:   24
Folio:   76
Page Number:   20
Household Members:   
Name   Age
Dennis Moore   48
Bridget Moore   40
Rose Skealy Moore   20
Rose Moore   15
Catherine Moore   13
Flaten Moore   9
Richd Moore   5
Jane Moore   3
Mary Ellen Skeley   8/12

[Kiltaglassan]

.......prior to 1839 when they had their first child, Mary Ann Moore, 25 APR 1839 • Instiogue Parish, Kilkenny.

Link-
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000635328#page/50/mode/1up

Top of the right hand page.

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Ireland, Catholic Parish Registers, 1655-1915

Name:   Denis Moore
Gender:   Male
Diocese:   Cork and Ross
Spouse:   
Bridget Lane
Child:   
Winifred Moore  bap 26th July 1841

Image on Ancestry and mother is Bridget LAW

Joh

John

[aghadowey]

I'm not sure why you think Bridget might have been Protestant but I've never come across a non-Catholic Bridget in Ireland in 1800s. While it's not impossible your Bridget was Protestant it was unlikely.
In the 1911 census there 140,586 entries for 'Bridget.' Selecting Roman Catholic for religion there are 139,333. Two were in households that refused information, 258 listed as Church of Ireland (several not born in Ireland, and 1 from a family I know is mis-transcribed as Bridget, quite a few living as servants in COI households and likely Catholic), 22 as Church of England, 2 listed as Church of Scotland (both are Catholic according to census forms), 39 Presbyterians (at least one has religion mis-transcribed & others servants in Presbyterian household) ...

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These 4 children baptisms (Catholic)can be found on Scotlandspeople.

MOORE
PATRICK
DENNIS MOORE/BRIDGET LAW
M
0/0/1853
4/8/1853
Edinburgh, St Mary's Cathedral

MOORE
FENLON
DENNIS MOORE/BRIDGET LAW
M
28/12/1851
0/1/1852
Edinburgh, St Mary's Cathedral

MOORE
BRYAN
DENNIS MOORE/BRIDGET LAW
M
28/12/1851
0/1/1852
Edinburgh, St Mary's Cathedral

MOORE
CATHERINE ALI
DENIS MOORE/BRIDGT LOW
F
27/8/1848
18/9/1848
Newton Stewart, Our Lady and St Ninian

John