I was given some documents one of my grans reletives, a Patterson made when he researched these Pattersons and his documents and his research said:
James Patterson (Weaver), father mentioned on the marriage certificate of Samuel Warnock Patterson and Elizabeth Dornan was from Ballynagarrick, Drumbo and that his son, Samuel Warnock Patterson was baptised in Drumbo Presbyterian Church on 28 December 1836 and he was born 2 December 1836 and that his mother, James Pattersons wife was a Sarah Morrow.
It seems these Pattersons were from Ballynagarrick, not Belfast and only Samuel Warnock Patterson Jr who married Elizabeth Dornan I mentioned in my first post, lived in Lower Malone then 71 May Street in Belfast.
There is no record of a Samuel Warnock Patterson in 1901 Irish Census, there is however a Warnock Patterson aged 24 living with his aunt, a 75 year old widow named Jane Lemon and they were living in Tullyard, Drumbeg:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Ballymacbrennan/Tullyard/1239383/In 1911, Samuel Warnock Pattersons son, Samuel Warnock Patterson (Wife was Margaret Elizabeth Patterson from Leveroge, Drumbo as I mentioned in my first post) was widowed living in Tullyard, Drumbeg according to this Census record:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Ballymacbrennan/Tullyard/248539/Could the Warnock Patterson in 1901 be the same Samuel Warnock Patterson in the 1911 census, even if the age is a few years off? Also can anyone help me with who that Jane Lemon is? In my first post I mentioned a Jane Lemon Patterson, daughter of Samuel Warnock Patterson and Elizabeth Dornan and could be named after this Jane Lemon?
An interesting thing I discovered when looking up Jane Lemon Patterson was two marriage certificates. The first is for Jane Lemon Patterson and William David McClean who were married on 29 October 1880 in Dunmurry:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1880/11048/8041205.pdf She was 18 so born 1862 and it says she is a spinster and her father was Samuel Warnock Patterson, Publican. That is the Samuel Warnock Patterson who married Elizabeth Dornan.
This later marriage certificate is for a John Wilson and a Jane Patterson on 30 January 1892 in Belfast. It sais Jane Pattersons father is also Samuel Warnock Patterson, Publican but the odd thing is that it says she is a spinster?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1892/10621/5869502.pdfIf this is the same Jane Patterson as the Jane Lemon Patterson, then why does it say she was a spinster when she married John Wilson?
One last thing I found. There was a Warnock Patterson living in Ballymagarrick in 1901 and had a 5 year old son, Samuel Warnock Patterson so I am assuming there could be related to the Samuel Warnock Pattersons I mentioned above? They are from the same location where James Patterson was from when Samuel Warnock Patterson Sr was born.
This Warnock Pattersons wife was Eliza Thomson:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Drumbo/Ballymagarrick/1238893/Warnock Patterson and Eliza Thomson marriage:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1883/10923/5990934.pdfIs Ballynagarrick and Ballymagarrick the same townland?
Can anyone help?