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Richard Pryor
« on: Friday 04 March 22 14:40 GMT (UK) »
Hi there
Looking for a bit of help
I am looking for the parents of Richard Pryor of Kerrier area
Trying to get a start with the Pryor family history
Much appreciated spec

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Re: Richard Pryor
« Reply #1 on: Friday 04 March 22 15:10 GMT (UK) »
Do you have any dates?

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Re: Richard Pryor
« Reply #2 on: Friday 04 March 22 15:47 GMT (UK) »
Sorry Richard died 1958 was born1928
I amaware his son was Richard
Dont know for sure but there could of been a son Patrick
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Re: Richard Pryor
« Reply #3 on: Friday 04 March 22 17:03 GMT (UK) »
I cannot see any birth or death registrations for Richard near to the years you mention.

If he had any children there will be a possibility they are still living, so it against the rules of this site that their details are posted unless they have died that is.

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Clarke, Trickett, Orton, Lawless, Norton, Detheridge, Kirby, Goodfellow, Wagstaff, Lowe, etc.


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Re: Richard Pryor
« Reply #4 on: Friday 04 March 22 17:27 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if this is him and the dates you have are incorrect?

PRYOR, RICHARD  ARUNDELL  mothers maiden name   HARRIS 
GRO Reference: 1901  S Quarter in HELSTON  Volume 05C  Page 154

Deaths Mar 1938   
PRYOR    Richard A    36   in  Kerrier    5c   197

Family in 1911?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7LY-BZT

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Re: Richard Pryor
« Reply #5 on: Friday 04 March 22 19:15 GMT (UK) »
Sorry Richard died 1958 was born1928
I amaware his son was Richard
Dont know for sure but there could of been a son Patrick
Many thanks spec

As ColC has stated, nothing is matching up with this information in the records.  No Richard died in 1958, no birth in 1928.

What are your sources?   At the moment nothing is adding up.

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Re: Richard Pryor
« Reply #6 on: Friday 04 March 22 20:08 GMT (UK) »
there's a Patrick Roy Pryor on the 1939 register in the Kerrier registration district, his death was registered in 2002 with a date of birth of 5 May 1921, but no birth reg in that name. There is however a birth reg for
Patrick Roy Persence june qtr 1921 Helston vol 5c pg 279 mmn Persence
and then a marriage reg
Mabel Persence dec qtr 1923 Helston vol 5c pg 391 to Richard Pryor

Death reg Mabel Pryor 1988 Kerrier gives date of birth of 10 Jan 1894. Probate record gives an address in Breage.

1901 census for Mabel
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSHX-9JB
& 1911
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7LY-PCZ

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Richard Pryor
« Reply #7 on: Friday 04 March 22 23:26 GMT (UK) »
there's a Patrick Roy Pryor on the 1939 register in the Kerrier registration district, his death was registered in 2002 with a date of birth of 5 May 1921, but no birth reg in that name.

There is however a birth reg for
Patrick Roy Persence june qtr 1921 Helston vol 5c pg 279 mmn Persence

and then a marriage reg
Mabel Persence dec qtr 1923 Helston vol 5c pg 391 to Richard Pryor

Death reg Mabel Pryor 1988 Kerrier gives date of birth of 10 Jan 1894. Probate record gives an address in Breage.

1901 census for Mabel
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSHX-9JB
& 1911
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7LY-PCZ

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For info.

If you use the advanced search on the latest census living in Breage, Cornwall

Mabel Presence 1894 Breage
Patrick Roy Presence 1921 Breage
Evie Presence born 1912 Breage
John Henry Cornish 1845 Breage
Mary Cornish 1872 Breage

Eva Dunn Persence Dec 1912 Helston  5c   266 mmn Persence

Don’t know if there’s a connection with Samuel C Pryor who is with Patrick & Mabel in 1939

Death

Samuel Coulson Pryor Age: 85
Birth 21 Mar 1906
Registration Date:   Jun 1991
Registration Penzance Volume:   21 Page:   350
Samuel’s Birth reg mmn rosewarne

Ellen Jane Rosewarne Age:   22
Marriage    15 Dec 1894 Germoe, Cornwall
Father:    John Rosewarne
Spouse:    Richard Pryor father Edward

1901 c Piece:   2236 Folio:   73
Edward Pryor    66
Richard Pryor   30
Ellen Jane Pryor   28
Edward J Pryor   5 mths

1911 census Samuel Pryor b1906 with mother Ellen Jane and 4 siblings
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7LY-PRL

PRYOR, RICHARD   mmn    ROSEWARNE 
GRO Reference: 1895  J Quarter in HELSTON  Volume 05C  Page 177

PRYOR, EDWARD  JOHN  mmn   ROSEWARNE 
GRO Reference: 1900  D Quarter in HELSTON  Volume 05C  Page 167

PRYOR, FRANCIS       ROSEWARNE 
GRO Reference: 1904  D Quarter in HELSTON  Volume 05C  Page 158

PRYOR, ELLEN  JUNE     ROSEWARNE 
GRO Reference: 1908  M Quarter in HELSTON  Volume 05C  Page 150

Ellen Jane Pryor age 49 died 1922 reg. Helston

There’s this probate record

Richard Pryor of Churchtown Breage died 19 Jul 1929
Probate 12 Mar 1938 to widow Mabel Pryor

Edit to add

I think the marriage details posted by Osprey for Richard Pryor & Mabel Persence (1923) is the same Richard Pryor who previously was married to Ellen Jane Rosewarne, Ellen died 1922 and Samuel Coulson Pryor (the son of Richard & Ellen) is living with his step mother Mabel Pryor and her son Patrick.  Evie Persence age 24 died 8 Jul 1937






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Re: Richard Pryor
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 05 March 22 15:08 GMT (UK) »
Thank you guys for allyour help
Sorry for the delay in responding
Much appreciated
Kind regards spec